Lots to respond to here.
I'll endeavour to answer most things in one hit
The diversity and inclusivity role, ethos, position mission statement or whatever you want to call it appears to be a red herring.
There have been recent posts from folk claiming they want this but all they really want is the right people with the right thoughts in their gang.
This is actually human nature. It can't be stopped but let's not dress it up for something it's not.
Everyone does it, every clique does it, every family does it every neighbor hood, every county, every club.
Cliques develop of like minded people. It's why we have wars, different religions and different regimes across the globe, not every one thinks,says or does or believes in the same thing.
What is most important to you is not necessarily very important to me and vice versa
A recent example
Someone from this forum one of the " diversity promoting cavers" recently referred to a who person attended the agm with different ideas on life was classed as " not a good look "
So diverse!
So welcoming
Another, alluded that if "x" proposal didn't go through they wouldn't want to represent an organisation like the BCA.
They don't sound very diverse and inclusive to me.
They sound like agitators.
Many assuming motives from people they don't even know.
So what if someone doesn't believe in being politically correct, just ignore them.
So, I'm going to ask the diversity and inclusivity promoters a question or too because I think we all need to know what it is we are and aren't allowed to say these days of this is the best way forward you see for bca
How welcome would I be of I voted brexit.
How welcome would I be if I wasn't vaccinated
How welcome would I be I thought the government response to climate change was incorrect
How welcome would I be if respected you for your caving ability rather than your virtue signalling and politically correct mission statements
How welcome would I be if I really don't give a monkeys about your title. .
These are ridiculous questions but from what I've viewed on this forum they seem to be coming all too important to some
The BCA needs to be smaller not bigger.
The civil servant type needed to run it should really be seen and not heard.
Like all organisations we need to hear about what can be done not what's too difficult or to red tape or too unfashionable
There are too many people making rules and talking points and amendments and changes for the average caver to be remotely interested.
Like every politician you will likely lose your audience, become detached from reality.
Cavers want to go caving, shared the experience with their friends and socialize after
That's it.
On a personal level, the BCA does everything I need it to, most my caving is overseas so I don't use it's funding as much as some but I'm having that c&a access costs are covered by it in regions and a democratic vote to push through crow was respected.
It also provides a repository library for those researching info, training for those that want it and a website to promote caving.
What British caving doesn't need from the BCA is for those closely linked to it, to come onto an independent privately owned forum and dismiss, censor shun or label anyone with different views or ideas.