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cap n chris
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Inglebernies?
Cave_Troll
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i didn't pay attention to the back page of descent.
is this serious?
is this serious?
newcastlecaver
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the whole lot is up for sale, according to the advert, he's selling the shop (inc. the business and the flat upstairs) I think it was on for about 350k??? I could see someone buying it to become a tea room with holiday flat above? or is there someone wishing to carry on the business?
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Dave H
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What... with the current clientele !!!newcastlecaver said:
It will be a sad day if it does close down - who will keep Inglethief honest then?
Rachel
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Nobody in Ingleton is making any money.
There are two other shops closing down (the undies shop and the sweet shop) due to lack of customers. The Bridge Inn is now houses, the Fountain Cafe is now a house, the Copper Kettle is now part of the butchers, the estate agent is being converted to a house and the two shops that used to be opposite the pottery are now holiday cottages.
Could be something to do with the fact that most of the houses under ?200k (except mine) are now holiday cottages so the local shops have very little custom for 9 months of the year.
There are two other shops closing down (the undies shop and the sweet shop) due to lack of customers. The Bridge Inn is now houses, the Fountain Cafe is now a house, the Copper Kettle is now part of the butchers, the estate agent is being converted to a house and the two shops that used to be opposite the pottery are now holiday cottages.
Could be something to do with the fact that most of the houses under ?200k (except mine) are now holiday cottages so the local shops have very little custom for 9 months of the year.
anfieldman
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It is very sad but I wondered how on earth two shops selling the same stuff only a few doors apart could make a living.
Obviously they cannot.
Obviously they cannot.
graham
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It is very sad, but the fact is that people having been steadily leaving the countryside since the 1700s. What do you expect, there are few farm labourers jobs these days and few other all season jobs in the countryside.
Fact is that any population has to have an economic underpinning. Farming can no longer support that many people, few other rural industries exist (if they did it'd no longer be rural!) and tourism is by definition seasonal.
On top of that it is well-known that the caving population has fallen significantly since the heady days of the 1960s and 70s; I never did understand how they could manage to support two caving shops in the Dales when they cannot support even one in South Wales.
Fact is that any population has to have an economic underpinning. Farming can no longer support that many people, few other rural industries exist (if they did it'd no longer be rural!) and tourism is by definition seasonal.
On top of that it is well-known that the caving population has fallen significantly since the heady days of the 1960s and 70s; I never did understand how they could manage to support two caving shops in the Dales when they cannot support even one in South Wales.
cap n chris
Well-known member
Eat cake instead; it's fabulous and ever-so-calorific! Terrifically-calorifically.
nickwilliams
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Before everyone completely dismisses the possibility of being able to make any sort of a profit in the countryside, and drives the value of Bernie's through the floor accordingly, I should point out that the reason given for the sale is simply that Steve Round wishes to retire. I can't say I blame him in the least.
I'd also point out, as someone who is themselves essentially self-employed, that there is a world of difference between making a profit, and making a reasonable living. If Steve is serious about trying to sell the business (and I have no reason to doubt that he is) then presumably he will be prepared to permit equally serious potential buyers the chance to examine his books so they can make their own mind up about the viability of the business.
I'm sure it is possible to make a living in Ingleton but making money from a small business is bloody hard work no matter whether it is located in the country or in a city. Some people are up for it, most are not. That's always been true, and I can't see it ever changing.
Nick.
I'd also point out, as someone who is themselves essentially self-employed, that there is a world of difference between making a profit, and making a reasonable living. If Steve is serious about trying to sell the business (and I have no reason to doubt that he is) then presumably he will be prepared to permit equally serious potential buyers the chance to examine his books so they can make their own mind up about the viability of the business.
I'm sure it is possible to make a living in Ingleton but making money from a small business is bloody hard work no matter whether it is located in the country or in a city. Some people are up for it, most are not. That's always been true, and I can't see it ever changing.
Nick.
langcliffe
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Well said, Nick. Steve has been talking about taking this step for at least a year, and I wish him well. He's worked hard, built up a good business, and deserves to sit back and reap the benefits.
Hopefully it will continue as it is, first stop for food, kit and caving info in my book.
Driving around the Ingleton one way loop trying to avoid parking in the pay and display car park is always fun and the joy of a car spot right outside is not often equalled.
Ian B.
Driving around the Ingleton one way loop trying to avoid parking in the pay and display car park is always fun and the joy of a car spot right outside is not often equalled.
Ian B.