Charging people to enter the Peak District?
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RobinGriffiths
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Fulk said:
Ah yes, but it'll get allocated politically then depending on whether you voted in the government or are seen to be a potential swing voter.
mrodoc
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Down our way some coastal towns have introduced Park and Ride and this should be the first move before congestion charges. Strategically developed it would solve a lot of problems. At some sites round here P&D is free to use as well. That would (theoretically) cut out all those not carrying heavy gear although that is probably wishful thinking!
cavemanmike
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Lik I saidmrodoc said:
Fatman
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On a different but related aspect are the camper vans parked up below Mam Tor, on the top road NR Stanage edge, etc.. I saw one with a lit BBQ next to a fire warning sign, I did say something to him. They do little to support local business and can cause parking and health issues. Down Glencoe etc there is no overnight parking allowed perhaps it's time to clamp down on this in the Peak. :chair:
alastairgott
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pwhole said:
I know of at least one local that uses that line to commute from tides' to bakewell. So ironically a measure to improve the "congestion/eco friendlyness" of the peak would see a cyclist either adding carbons getting on a train or would get in their car instead.
Cantclimbtom
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Thinking about this for all touristy areas not peak specific, and I'm sure if one area did it others would follow:cavemanmike said:
While park and ride is great as one of the options they should have, some people like me struggle with them as I want to arrive, leave or both at times that aren't 9-5
Also would the congestion charge be ploughed back into public transport or would the council just see it as a nice little earner?
Interesting to see a green candidate who works (and lives?) in Essex representing constituents/parishioners in the Peak, doesn't sound like she can represent them well, or has a lot of commuting which doesn't fit with a climate change emergency stance. Never understood why politicians at all levels don't have to have their (genuine) primary residence within some distance of their constituents, but that's another thread!
She left Essex 10 years ago & was a nurse in Sheffield before becoming a lawyer, so presumably not wealthy by southern standards (also only a parish councillor not member of parliament, she is a member of the green party but not representing them): http://bamfordwiththornhill-pc.gov.uk/councillors/cn-farrell
RobinGriffiths
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Fatman said:
The ubiquitous and pandemic defining phenomenon - Brown Bunting.
pwhole
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Winnats Pass was closed today due to the weather, and Castleton was deserted - virtually no traffic at all through the village. Which kind of reinforces the point I made - take Winnats out of the equation and not many non-locals are interested in driving to (or through) Castleton.
It can be difficult to get to the caves of Derbyshire without a car but, Pierre Chevalier managed an even more arduous journey in the 1940's when exploring the Trou du Glaz. On Saturday morning, Pierre would arrive from Lyon by train, and having brought his bike, would pedal a dozen kilometers from the train station in Grenoble to Saint-Ismier. From there, wearing old mountaineering clothes, the whole group would ride their bikes up a steep hill (12km long and 800m ascent) to the sanatorium in Saint Hilaire du Touvet. A three-hour hike was then required to reach the entrance of the Trou du Glaz cave at 1,700 meters elevation. During the first few years, their backpacks were weighed down by rolled ladders with wooden rungs and battery packs for their electric lamps. They would usually emerge sometime late Sunday evening, if not Monday morning at dawn? Upon their return, staggering with fatigue after having gone without sleep for dozens of hours, they would hop on their bicycles, which were ingeniously outfitted to keep the brakes from wearing out too quickly: a bundle of sticks anchored to the back of the bicycle or a rod dragging on the ground beneath the pedals, served as brakes. A hazardous affair indeed, but nothing compared to two days spent exploring the bowels of the earth.
Mrs Trellis
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Bikes? Trains? Luxury! We 'ad to set off 'alf an 'our before we went to bed to walk to Giant's, eat a bowl o' cold grit, and when we got 'ome our mums and dads would cut us in 'alf wi't' breadknife.... and you tell young cavers today an' they won't believe you Eli.
A_Northerner
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pwhole said:
SUSS members have been known to walk to Castleton, do a ropey SRT trip (Oxlow-Maskhill exchange, Titan-JH etc) and then walk back home as endurance training before an exped.
kay
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One of the traffic report pages on Facebook frequently has warnings to beware of a pedestrian on A65, the general tone reminding me of telling people to beware of a pushbike on the M1. Good to be aware of pedestrians, especially in dark clothing at night, but not good if people are beginning to think that people are not allowed to walk along busy roads.mikem said:
al
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kay said:
When I was keyholding for Peak Cavern, I regularly cycled across from Hayfield to let cavers in to the cavern. The scariest road by far was the A624 between Hayfield and Chapel. You expect the smaller lanes (like Winnats) to be the worst, but the speed of vehicles on the A roads is much higher, and if two cars going in opposite directions (or worse still, lorries) meet at a point where there is a cyclist, a very close pass is inevitable. And it doesn't matter how bright your clothing is.
That route's going to be much busier over the next few weeks now that the Snake's being closed because of the landslides.
