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Derbyshire (29th/30th April & 1st) wot you doing?

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darkplaces

Guest
Myself and one other (c**tplaces member) are heading up to Derbyshire on the 29th/30th May and 1st April to visit Giants and P8 and other things, anyone interested?

Transport (my car) from the south west leaving Sat morning early. Staying (to be confirmed) Pindar Outdoor center otherwise its camping otherwise its B&B.

Or give any advice if the weather is bad, p8 is a tad wet I dont know if it floods?

We might find time to ram all the gates and cut locks off, duno yet, mate of mine should be bringing the angle grinder..... (I am joking you know) :twisted:

http://www.c**tplaces.co.uk/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=4594
 

paul

Moderator
c**tplaces said:
Or give any advice if the weather is bad, p8 is a tad wet I dont know if it floods?

P8 is a sink so is subject to the effects of rain of course. Usually in high water conditions the entrance can get a bit "aqueous"...
 

AndyF

New member
Hi DP,

If you can't book Pindale, then I may be able to point you at some caving accomodation...

If you want another good trip with a couple of ladders then try Hillocks Mine.

Andyf
 
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darkplaces

Guest
Hillocks Mine ooo yes jasonbirder took me to that one, (I think?) I had my FX5 & SRT gear on and got stuck in the bit just before you have to levetate over a hole to get your legs out, yes I did only get that far :oops: I tried to back up but my croll flipped over and wedged me in. I might do better this time, thanks.

Hillocks is the one were the entrance is a cement tube in a depression not far from (forgets name) the 210ft shaft and multi-pitch mine (in tiny woods) just over the road.

ta andyf, i'll pm if I cant book pindale (I keep wanting to say pindar but that a bunker I think?)
 

paul

Moderator
c**tplaces said:
Hillocks is the one were the entrance is a cement tube in a depression not far from (forgets name) the 210ft shaft and multi-pitch mine (in tiny woods) just over the road.

Yes, that's Hillocks Mine. The other mine with the Climbing Shaft in among the trees and nearby Engine Shaft is Whalf Pipe.

Another possibility if you decide its too wet for P8 (and it would have to be very wet) is Carlswark Cavern in Stoney Middleton dale. Entering and leaving via the Gin Entrance requires no ropes or ladders. Alternatively you could rig a ladder (I think 10m plus double for lifeline would be OK but best check as I have only used SRT and haven't the guide book to hand at the moment) on Eyam Dale Shaft (it has two 'P' bolts). You could then exit via Gin Entrance and return the short distance on the surface to retrieve your ladder/lifeline.
 

caverholic

New member
Giants round or bottom inspection is always a good trip. Not to severe in high water unless the windpipe sumps then you have to head all the way back up the crabwalk which is tedious enough on the way down.
 
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darkplaces

Guest
caverholic said:
you could always go exploring the devils arse :LOL: aka peak cavern
Thats our plan for Monday before driving home, so I dont have to drive home in wet underpants we shall be doing the tourist caves for a bit of easy underground fun. I entertained the idea of going in to peak and speedwell tourists bits fully SRTed up but it might get silly, photos would be fun.
 
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emgee

Guest
c**tplaces said:
caverholic said:
you could always go exploring the devils arse :LOL: aka peak cavern
Thats our plan for Monday before driving home, so I dont have to drive home in wet underpants we shall be doing the tourist caves for a bit of easy underground fun. I entertained the idea of going in to peak and speedwell tourists bits fully SRTed up but it might get silly, photos would be fun.

If you're doing a show cave in that area then go for Blue John mine as by far the most impressive or Treak for the best formations. Peak is rather dull till you get past the end of the show cave. Despite the name Blue John Mine is mostly natural cave.
 

caverholic

New member
I agree entirely peak caverns not brilliant go for something like blue john or treak cliff, they also have the benefit of shorter queues as they are slightly out of Castleton.

Being a caver you should really be able to find a proper cave to go down.
You know its only one step away from being a proper armchair caver, you'll be trading in your wellies for furry bootie slippers and a nice cuppa and an interesting read like beneath cloud forest.





I'm almost tempted :LOL:
 
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darkplaces

Guest
ooo I do like a nice cuppa.. :)

The idea is some proper caves sat and sunday, with water and SRT :D whoo hoo! then a nice relaxing day Monday poking about in the barred sections in the tourist bits. Its been known before ;) 'anyone looking, torch in hand, ooo wots down here, past this keep out sign'. :twisted: I am a bad person.

them furry booties do look warm...
 
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darkplaces

Guest
Here is a trip report.
Thanks to everyone who helped with ideas a top time was had :D

I am back :D very good weekend...

Sat
Drove up to meet up with joker001 just after 11am at Hitch and Hike Bamford, we brought some toys, rope bags, waterproof containers, couple of steel malions for my acending gear and gloves, mine were both left handed and changed later! I located Odin Mine, myself and Jasonbirder had visited on my last trip, marked it on my tomtom GPS.

From all the information posted we located the Giants Hole parking area easy and I stuffed a load of change in the tresspass box, we got kitted up carrying our new shiny ropebags almost looking like proper cavers. Down into Giants and finally to Garlands Pot were I rigged a fairly dubious yet safe rope down the pot. My rigging so me first to show it works I guess so gingerly with cowstails and decender swonground and in position for the decent. Check the decender, ok, cowstails off and down I went nice and controlled, easy. Next joker001 admiring my rigging dropped down pleased with himself. Harness off we headed into the crabwalk, on and on and on it goes, a few slight climbups, a few were you have to get down in the water to fit, ON and ON and BLOODY ON this bloody crabwalk goes, we passed the section which dropps down quicker with some pots, we went though the bit that levels out with, the crabwalk went ever on.... Untill... the furthest I have been we get to a point too tight for us, we cant climb up, sides too flat, cant get low the entry is round a corner and still tight lower down. We were stuffed, we tried, thought, pushed, relaxed, tried everything short of hanging upside down head in water to pass this restriction. So back out we headed, back out to Garlands Pot were Joker acended fine and I acended fine, I was rather pleased with myself. De-rigged and headed out. On the surface getting changed into dry gear, I have messages. It appears Jagman and the SimplyCrew (exluding simplecrawling) have popped up/down to meet us in Castleton. Later after a meal with the gang, and an entertaining giggle at past 'activities' we all parted and myself and joker booked into Pindale, we had a room, with bunks for 8 people, and a kitchen BRILL, the owner is in cave rescue so we happy to have a couple of cavers in.

Sunday
Our Plan, to poke around in some dry caves.. Locate places to visit maybe next time. We drove about the area. We looked at two caves on Winnats Pass just up from Speedwell Cavern, one of which later I find out is Suicide Cave (Horseshoe Cave) (DP Album) we went in with just torches (just checking locations for now) and found the eco-hangers and the drop and discussed about returning with kit to drop down later on. We exited meeting a mum and her two kids and ambled off just then a horrid thump and said mum running towards the entrance, we thought the kid had gone in and smacked himself inside but no, the kid had climbed a ledge some 15-20ft up over the entrance and fell off landing on his brother, the mum picked the kid up wrong thing to do, just incase of spinal injury, someone with a phone called an ambulance and me and joker made sure the ambulance knew were the accident was. We left after, the kid apparently going to get a helicopter ride to the hospital for scans etc.

Just after lunchtime and time for P8.. P8 is just down the road from the Giants turning, we parked in the usual place and poped the farmer some money, got changed and marched off in the right general direction, several fields later we found the entrance. The water level was very low, just a slight trickle of water down the hole. SRT gear on, and with a large sling round a rock as a hand hold we diving in getting drenched and crawled off downstream dragging out new but not so shiny caving bags. A rope was rigged for the first 'slide' just to make it easy for the two tired cavers exiting (us later). The first very short drop was just round the corner so we used the same rope hung from the eco hangers and decended down in the waterfall. A few twisty turns and finally at the 25ft pitch I didnt do last time. With our last rope I rigged the rope, dropped down to the re-belay and made a doubious re-belay out of the waterfall. What a pain in the ass but I finally made it past and down to the bottom, same for joker but we had spent a long time on this and knew we would take a while to get back up again so we only went a little further down before returning. Joker was up first... ooo the swearing going on at the re-belay, more ptarctice needed, later learned that we should have used the loop formed for the rebelay and stood in that. Finally joker made it up with more swearing. My turn, I was well pumped up and zoomed up the rope, dangled about and used a combination of the acender and pulled myself up with one arm managed to transfer, forgot that your ment to transfer the chest croll first, I think, its all in the new book I brought so I'll be an expert next week. Anyway, backup the last bit I went de-rigging as I went and we headed out. The little pitch being easy but still wet. For the slide I just used my hand acender to grip on. The entrance I poped out like a cork into the cold damp air, would have been nice if it was warm and sunny as we were both soaked and headed back along the 93 fields back to the cars, for changed and headed for food.

Monday
The plan - myself and joker to do Suicide Cave and the tourist caves/mines for a giggle then drive hope.
Sadly Joker had to leave early so instead I took a slow drive home instead. Plenty to do Tuesday, kit to wash and clean, ropes to clean and dry.

Pindale is an excillient place to stay when caving with a bunk being just £8 a night +£1 for each elextric token used (we only used 2) why camp!

More visits to the area will follow.
 

cap n chris

Well-known member
Personally I think it's great to read trip reports; would you like to join our club, Mr. DP? - or perhaps I shall join yours instead :wink:
 
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darkplaces

Guest
oooo Thanks an invite to join the cheedar chums society?
Or should I create the rambling renagade cavers club and bomb creation society.

I just re-read what I wrote, bleedin hell am I dyslexit or something its not an easy read is it! My English now't good. It looked ok when I posted it!

More rigging & re-belay practice needed for sure, but its ok I brought the Alpine Caving Techniques book.
 

caverholic

New member
sounds like a good weekend!
Glad you didn't go show caving in the end.

I suggest next time you stay at the tsg in castleton. Lots cheaper and just as good as pindale.
 

paul

Moderator
caverholic said:
sounds like a good weekend!
Glad you didn't go show caving in the end.

I suggest next time you stay at the tsg in castleton. Lots cheaper and just as good as pindale.

Especially if you like pink... :wink:
 
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darkplaces

Guest
SamT said:
paul said:
Especially if you like pink... :wink:

:LOL: :wink:
:( I dont understand?

However my ropes are now washing machine fresh and ready for action :D
Should I be using a steel krab for connecting my STOP to my mallion or is a normal one fine?
 
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tubby two

Guest
Should I be using a steel krab for connecting my STOP to my mallion or is a normal one fine?

That innocent little question could make this a very big thread indeed.

Use whatever you prefer so long as its a screw-gate, theyre both plenty strong enough. Many people prefer steel though as it feels nice and heavy and reassuring, same as the central mallion.

Nice one with the trip. You cant beat a few sticky re-belays and little mistakes to improve the rigging. i remember one that necessitated down prussiking to the bottom of eldon hole when i started rigging- now that was excercise!

tt.
 
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