Speleotron
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Is the draft still coming from below? This could mean that you're OK and down is still teh way.
Eldon Hole - Trip Report
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Mrs Trellis
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My pet Vitnery says:-
More than one animal, probably at least 5 diet species.
The large tooth adjacent to the jawbone (cms1-6) looks like a herbivores molar with grinding ridges = sheep or cow or even small horse ?
ditto large knuckle bone with complex articular surface (cms 16-20) = sheep or pig or cow or horse carpus/tarsus
jawbones probably sheep.
thin long rib bones look too thin to be from domestic species. Other bones difficult to tell from the pictures
Lack of signs of chewing may mean natural death. Marrow bones are usually broken open to get at the marrow by predators.
More than one animal, probably at least 5 diet species.
The large tooth adjacent to the jawbone (cms1-6) looks like a herbivores molar with grinding ridges = sheep or cow or even small horse ?
ditto large knuckle bone with complex articular surface (cms 16-20) = sheep or pig or cow or horse carpus/tarsus
jawbones probably sheep.
thin long rib bones look too thin to be from domestic species. Other bones difficult to tell from the pictures
Lack of signs of chewing may mean natural death. Marrow bones are usually broken open to get at the marrow by predators.
RichardB1983
Member
Mrs Trellis said:
Death coming possibly as a result of a large fall? [/sleuth]
Mrs Trellis
Well-known member
To be fair the vitnery didn't know the cause of death.
Hello all,
I am working with Doubleband Films on the second series of Tony Robinson's Ancient Tracks, for episode 3 we are doing the Derbyshire Portway and Tony is hoping to be able to visit Eldon Hole. Would any of you be able to help me organise this and perhaps work or be filmed with Tony? Be really lovely to get people on board - filming is 10th - 16th July. Please contact me via email if you think you can help.
Thanks,
Liz
I am working with Doubleband Films on the second series of Tony Robinson's Ancient Tracks, for episode 3 we are doing the Derbyshire Portway and Tony is hoping to be able to visit Eldon Hole. Would any of you be able to help me organise this and perhaps work or be filmed with Tony? Be really lovely to get people on board - filming is 10th - 16th July. Please contact me via email if you think you can help.
Thanks,
Liz
Mrs Trellis
Well-known member
Do you have a cunning plan for getting him down the 'ole?
Speleotron
Member
Wait for the breakthrough then walk in via Peak!
danthecavingman
Member
No reports for nearly a month - is this the usual summer hiatus or has it 'gone' and we can expect a mega report soon?
D.
D.
Mark Wright
Active member
Expect a detailed report very soon.
Mark
Mark
Mark Wright
Active member
Big Jim said:
We don't do surface digs, only digs at the bottoms of very big shafts.
Mark
Mark Wright
Active member
01/05/17
Sorry for the late posting.
Mark W., Mark R., Mark S., Adam W. & Ivor, carried 15 x 1.8m boards, 7 x 8? scaffold tubes, a bag of singles, 36v drill and 18v reciprocating saw (what a tool), rope, stereo, coffee flasks and sandwiches up to Eldon Hole on Monday.
Special thanks must go to the two lads who we talked into helping with equipment portaging. Sorry I didn?t catch your names.
The first job was clearing the former wall out from the bottom of the first shaft we had dismantled the week before. With that done there followed a constant stream of buckets coming from the sharp end interspersed with some pretty large blocks coming up in the net. None stop hauling until lunchtime and a welcome rest. Mark R. and Adam then went down to do some capping while we finished our sandwiches and then some more hauling.
Following a lack of any movement at the sharp end for some time I went down to see what the problem was. There had been a significant slump of rocks behind the boards we installed the week before and it was time for some serious backfilling.
With this complete and a new scaffold ring and a fresh set of boards installed it was time for the pub so we all headed out for a pint in the Devonshire.
As has already been posted, we have been finding all sorts of animal bones in the rubble and bank holiday Monday was no exception. The only difference was, some of the bones, recovered from a depth of +/- 16m, weren?t from an animal, they were human and not just one human, an adult and a juvenile.
With the relevant authorities and landowner contacted we have been advised to temporarily stop the project pending the issue of an exhumation license for any further bone removal and have received advice from the NP on recording any future archaeological finds.
The bones have undergone a detailed investigation by the University of Dundee and confirmed by the county coroner as not being recent. Accurate dating is currently being organized through the University of Nottingham and as soon as we have some news we will post on here.
In the meantime could we ask that people avoid going down to the dig face until further notice. Hopefully this won?t be too long.
Mark
Sorry for the late posting.
Mark W., Mark R., Mark S., Adam W. & Ivor, carried 15 x 1.8m boards, 7 x 8? scaffold tubes, a bag of singles, 36v drill and 18v reciprocating saw (what a tool), rope, stereo, coffee flasks and sandwiches up to Eldon Hole on Monday.
Special thanks must go to the two lads who we talked into helping with equipment portaging. Sorry I didn?t catch your names.
The first job was clearing the former wall out from the bottom of the first shaft we had dismantled the week before. With that done there followed a constant stream of buckets coming from the sharp end interspersed with some pretty large blocks coming up in the net. None stop hauling until lunchtime and a welcome rest. Mark R. and Adam then went down to do some capping while we finished our sandwiches and then some more hauling.
Following a lack of any movement at the sharp end for some time I went down to see what the problem was. There had been a significant slump of rocks behind the boards we installed the week before and it was time for some serious backfilling.
With this complete and a new scaffold ring and a fresh set of boards installed it was time for the pub so we all headed out for a pint in the Devonshire.
As has already been posted, we have been finding all sorts of animal bones in the rubble and bank holiday Monday was no exception. The only difference was, some of the bones, recovered from a depth of +/- 16m, weren?t from an animal, they were human and not just one human, an adult and a juvenile.
With the relevant authorities and landowner contacted we have been advised to temporarily stop the project pending the issue of an exhumation license for any further bone removal and have received advice from the NP on recording any future archaeological finds.
The bones have undergone a detailed investigation by the University of Dundee and confirmed by the county coroner as not being recent. Accurate dating is currently being organized through the University of Nottingham and as soon as we have some news we will post on here.
In the meantime could we ask that people avoid going down to the dig face until further notice. Hopefully this won?t be too long.
Mark
