Famous and Fearless bullshit

[ditzy 24//7]

is this tradesmans entrance in goatchurch according to the tv?

 

[mrodoc]

 

[Slug]

Yeh, don't go classing me and Stu into the sort of people who watch this crap you batless snot ridden chef!
:chair:   

I do apologise Stu, and Mark ( well mostly to Stu as Mark is a liverpool supporter  )

and by the way, the snot, along with the Flu is receding.......and it's Fantastic and Amazing Chef to You  :spank:

Still at least it wasn't GOLF  , and it was still a crap programme.

Still Batless though!  :tease:

Two out of Three aint Bad 

 

[tony from suffolk]

...On a personal note when I was alot yonger after seeing the program "999 rescue" made me want to do caving even more!

Not sure if this was the same program they did on the rescue from Black Hole with J-Rat, but I thought that was very well done and I was amazed they'd actually gone to the correct location to film it, with the Swildon's stream very high at the time.

It can be done, but then I've always been puzzled why films of books are given different endings to the original stories.

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[Andy Sparrow]

Not sure if this was the same program they did on the rescue from Black Hole with J-Rat, but I thought that was very well done and I was amazed they'd actually gone to the correct location to film it, with the Swildon's stream very high at the time.

If I remember correctly very little of it was actually filmed in Swildons.  Most was done in the current Mendip Wezzit cave.  That's a clue, by the way.

 

[n?π]

It can be done, but then I've always been puzzled why films of books are given different endings to the original stories.

It's often done to make the end product more "saleable". Good example being "I am Legend" the original film ending was different to the book but in a similar vein (not quite so dark) but even this was considered to dark to make the film saleable so an incredibly bad (very  magic wand everythings ok) ending was made so as to appeal to the american market more.

 

[tony from suffolk]

Not sure if this was the same program they did on the rescue from Black Hole with J-Rat, but I thought that was very well done and I was amazed they'd actually gone to the correct location to film it, with the Swildon's stream very high at the time.

If I remember correctly very little of it was actually filmed in Swildons.  Most was done in the current Mendip Wezzit cave.  That's a clue, by the way.

I'm pretty certain they filmed in the Black Hole though, and there were definitely shots of the Swildon's streamway in there too.

 

[Andy Sparrow]

Not sure if this was the same program they did on the rescue from Black Hole with J-Rat, but I thought that was very well done and I was amazed they'd actually gone to the correct location to film it, with the Swildon's stream very high at the time.

If I remember correctly very little of it was actually filmed in Swildons.  Most was done in the current Mendip Wezzit cave.  That's a clue, by the way.

I'm pretty certain they filmed in the Black Hole though, and there were definitely shots of the Swildon's streamway in there too.

The accident, pitch haul and Sump 1 were all filmed in the wezzit location.

 

[Slug]

Is that the programme where a young(ish) and SLIM  Rich West was filmed in the MRO store explaining what happens on a call out , and Roger Dors answers the phone, informs the usual suspects, who firstly, down their beers, before setting off, 

 

[anfieldman]

Is that the programme where a young(ish) and SLIM  Rich West was filmed in the MRO store explaining what happens on a call out , and Roger Dors answers the phone, informs the usual suspects, who firstly, down their beers, before setting off, 

Would be great to see that. Anyone got a recording they can get on to Youtube??

 

[ttxela]

Remember that if anything was the main focus of this programme it was the celebrity, not the cave and (sorry guys) definitely not the cavers!

It was still b*****y awful to watch though!*

I thought the celebrity was fairly easy to watch    Shame you chaps put her off  :tease:

 

[Glenn]

Did no-one else catch the quote from Chris Evans at the end of that section: "Cavers are wierd......but nice"

So it's official, 'cos I saw it on TV, we're wierd....

 

[j4nny]

Is it worth a grumble to OFCOM or something for misleading the public? 

 

[Burt]

Probably not. If we just let it die then it will be mostly forgotten and besides, the non-caving public's perception of caving is unlikely to change.
As for being described as weird, I'd rather that than be described as "normal" or "average".

 

[zucca]

I'm with J4nny about the OFCOM complaint. I'm quite infuriated t the whole she-bang. C4 has no right to misrepresent caving (and us, the "weird ones") in this way. And the stupid woman has no right to reinforce the stereotype that "woman" equals "shrieking/weeping wuss". Also, I paid particular attention and she still had her hair down when she was being lowered, which is one of the unsafest things I can think of (a novice in my club got rescued due to luxuriant and flowing hair getting stuck in a stop).
Luckily I was nowhere near this particular example of idiocy, but if I had been I would have probably shouted at her so much that I would have given her a true reason to cry  :chair:

 

[Peter Burgess]

I'm with Burt. Move on - nothing to see here.

 

[graham]

I'm with J4nny about the OFCOM complaint. I'm quite infuriated t the whole she-bang. C4 has no right to misrepresent caving (and us, the "weird ones") in this way. And the stupid woman has no right to reinforce the stereotype that "woman" equals "shrieking/weeping wuss". Also, I paid particular attention and she still had her hair down when she was being lowered, which is one of the unsafest things I can think of (a novice in my club got rescued due to luxuriant and flowing hair getting stuck in a stop).
Luckily I was nowhere near this particular example of idiocy, but if I had been I would have probably shouted at her so much that I would have given her a true reason to cry  :chair:

I remember SRT practice in the Avon Gorge back in the 1970s.

Girl: "Can you come down and help me, I've got my hair caught in my descender?"

Boy: I can't, I've got my hair caught in my descender!"

 

[Andy Sparrow]

Is it worth a grumble to OFCOM or something for misleading the public? 

Yes.  On the basis of gross factual inaccuracy,  It takes just a minute and the more of us that do the more seriously it will be taken,

https://stakeholders.ofcom.org.uk/tell-us/specific-programme-epg

 

[zucca]

done! Text was:
"The segment presented factual mistakes in the description of the cave "Swildons hole" (e.g. location/distances/depths).
See book: http://www.wessex-cave-club.org/SwildonsBook.htm for reference.
The segment was unnecessarily sensationalistic & negative about the sport of caving and greatly exaggerated the difficulties encountered in the descent down the cave. The segment portrayed caving as an extremely unsafe activity, which is patently untrue when one compares the accident totals (see here:http://www.caverescue.org.uk/IREPPDF/2009IRep[A].pdf) to the total number of active cavers (a few thousands, enquire with http://www.british-caving.org.uk/ for an exact number)
On top of the factual inaccuracies, as an active caver I object being called "weird". I watched the program online, as I do not own a TV set."

Feel free to copy 

 

[Alex]

But I do have a TV set.