• Derbyshire Explorers Forum 2023 - Sat 30th September - It's On!

    The event is now being held at the Mechanics Institute in the centre of Eyam (opposite the church), still on Saturday 30th September, with doors opening at 15:00. Best bit is that there is a bar on site.

    Entry is free and there will be evening meal also. More details to follow...

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Geocaching

Maggot

New member
I remember the old days before handheld GPS.
There were similar hidden containers, with a log book, and clues to others in the area. "Dartmoor Letterboxes" if I remember right.

I believe there are a few underground geocaches in the Bath Stone quarries (Box, Browns and Swan).
 

mr conners

Member
Its just rubbish, literally an excuse for leaving rubbish.

I have had a go at the activity. Registered on the site, been and collected about 5-6 caches round where I live. Then went and had a think. Then realised I think its silly.

If I was to leave a butty box at the top of Kinder Scout full of tat then I'm sure someone would rightly have something to say. As it considered a 'cache' then its alright. Bo**ocks its alright.

Rant over.

 

TheBitterEnd

Well-known member
Personally I am really ambivalent about Geocaching but some friends introduced my kids to it and they think it's fun. When I was a kid you went for a walk because, frankly, it was probably better than the alternatives a lot of the time, but anything that makes my kids enthusiastic to get out for a walk or cycle is a good thing.

I suppose that fact that there is a register and someone is supposedly responsible for each cache means that they can be cleaned up.
 

jonnyrocketboots

New member
Mr Conners,

You miserable old Toad you!!

  The Peaks don't belong to us cavers, (Unfortunately!)  I'ts a massive outdoor playground for all to enjoy whatever you're into, Be it Caving, Mining,  Climbing, Mountain Biking, Road Biking, Hill-Walking, Scrambling, Hang-gliding, Para-gliding, Orienteering, Fell running, Having a peek in the show caves/girls showers, Whatever blows your frock up really! I've tried geo-caching while out hill-walking a couple of times and while it's not for me I have seen a few kids tearing around the hills with their mates and getting quite excited about finding their next find! I think it's a great way for the wee ones to let off some steam! Camping with pals and going on a treasure hunt sounds like fun to me (even at 38!)  Got to be better than letting them play on them,  x-box station things all weekend.

I'm all for geo-caching as a bit of fun while out and about but will draw the line at placing them in or near cave entrances. Thats just plain daft


 

Alex

Well-known member
Is there anything that does not kick up a fuss on this forum??  o_O

Now a Rant from me:

Is a geo catch not suppose to draw peoples attention to a point of interest, a cave entrance to a none caver would be very interesting and who knows they may think hmm wonder whats down there and think about getting some gear together and even join a club, you know help the declining caving numbers.

If they go in with a head torch, is that a big deal? Who here did not start caving like that?

I think we as the caving community really don't help with the caving numbers where anything that might get people interested in caving appears to be frowned upon.

As for geo catching it self, not tried it I would think its fun like modern day treasure hunt. I would love there to placements for cavers in the Easegill system marked on a survey hidden away not to spoil the underground scenery, bring some sport into the caving game. But no you nay sayers would soon have them removed under the guise of conservation or safety or some other barely plausible reason.

Can we not enjoy life? I guess not.

P.s. perhaps we should stop wezzit, after all I bet some people take photos of formations etc just to be posted on here, so does that not cause undue damage to the formations that people would otherwise not visit? That is about as week as some of the arguments presented on here already, against geo catching.

/End Rant




 

Alex

Well-known member
Okay I just remembered what Winnets head is like, maybe that is a bit too much to ask for none-cavers but still the principle should not be dismissed.
 

SamT

Moderator
This is a rather out of date thread.. now - the geocache in Winnats Head was removed a couple of years ago and more importantly - its entry on the 'big database of geocache points' which acts as a kind of guide was also removed.

I dont think anyone has expressed displeasure at the thought of geocaches being stashed in cave entrances

- just the concept of stashing them well beyond the boundary where proper caving equipment/techniques/experience is needed, and advertising the locations on geocache websites that are aimed at the general geocaching public.

Surely this makes sense, it doesn't seem in line with the idea and aim of geocaching  and will ultimately avoid unnecessary call outs for cave rescue (whom were contacted over the winnats head one and whole heartedly agreed it was a stupid place for one).
 

Alex

Well-known member
Maybe I got a bit of the wrong end of the stick then, I took caves to include cave entrances too, as people seemed to reason it is just an excuse for leaving rubbish.

Out of interest am I correct, would people be adversed to a caving version? Not for the general public? Not sure what you would stash, probbably all my lost gear lol.
 

Cumbrian Neil

New member
Wow. People have certainly been fired up both positively and negatively. An old thread rejuvenated. For the record, I am against Geocaches near cave entrances... imagine one placed near Gaping Gill main shaft. Daft. But for me, it's helped give more interest to getting my kids outdoors. My 9 and 5 year old love it. To me, it's no different to orienteering, but using today's technology. My kids don't have sedentary electronics... that's why my 5 year old can walk 6+ miles carrying his own rucksack.

In the USA, if you don't maintain the cache, they are removed from the Geocaching site and from wherever they are placed. Kids seem to like the tat in them. I don't get that, but I am not 5. They shouldn't be easily found... so it's unfair to suggest that it is unsightly rubbish. Earthcaches are the more friendly... nowt there but what you are supposed to be looking for.

I have been to many areas of interest only known by locals, to that end, Geocaching is a fun way to get kids and their parents outside.
 
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