Message for Rhychydwr1.
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rhychydwr1
Active member
It is not often that I am speechless, but I am today. These book that I am listing are useful reference works. If you want to go caving in any of these area you will first need to know where the cave is. Wiki is not going to much use if the cave locations are kept secret.
Comments welcome.
Comments welcome.
bubba
Administrator
The idea is that the wiki grows into an encyclopedia of useful information.
We do not adverts with prices and your email address all over them.
If you want to flesh out the wiki with information about the caves, then please do so without including for sale adverts.
If you want to create a section that has guidebook information, then again, you are happy to list your guide, but not to include "for sale" style ads. If you have a website that sells one of your guides, then you can link to that.
This is one of your entries:
This is not an acceptable style of entry. This is an advert.
I run ukb on a non-commercial basis - I don't want adverts on the wiki.
There is a for-sale board on the forum, which you are very familiar with. Please keep that sort of thing for there.
We do not adverts with prices and your email address all over them.
If you want to flesh out the wiki with information about the caves, then please do so without including for sale adverts.
If you want to create a section that has guidebook information, then again, you are happy to list your guide, but not to include "for sale" style ads. If you have a website that sells one of your guides, then you can link to that.
This is one of your entries:
This is not an acceptable style of entry. This is an advert.
I run ukb on a non-commercial basis - I don't want adverts on the wiki.
There is a for-sale board on the forum, which you are very familiar with. Please keep that sort of thing for there.
Peter Burgess
New member
Ok you requested comments.
What you posted were useful references to publications that provide relevant information. However, when I buy a book which includes useful references, they do not normally include prices, and details of who to contact to buy them. That turns a reference into an advertisement. If someone wants to get a copy of the book you mention, Tony Oldham's books are well enough known for anyone to be able to find out how to get a copy and how much it costs. Ask any good caving retailer.
I'm with bubba on this one.
What you posted were useful references to publications that provide relevant information. However, when I buy a book which includes useful references, they do not normally include prices, and details of who to contact to buy them. That turns a reference into an advertisement. If someone wants to get a copy of the book you mention, Tony Oldham's books are well enough known for anyone to be able to find out how to get a copy and how much it costs. Ask any good caving retailer.
I'm with bubba on this one.
Cave_Troll
Active member
maybe an ISBN number and an amazon link
rhychydwr1
Active member
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From: Tony Oldham <tonyfoldham@hotmail.com>
To: bubba's email
Subject: RE: New Personal Message: Re: Wiki
Sent: 18 October 2006 08:34:01
Dear Mike
There was a further problem. Whilst I was wallowing in Wiki I could not access my Hotmail, so your messages went unread. I was not trying to ignore you. Usually I only access Hotmail twice a day as I use the computer in the library and that is all I am allowed.
Cheers - Tony Oldham
Duncavin
1 Riverside Mews
CARDIGAN
SA43 1DH
United Kingdom
http://www.sat.dundee.ac.uk/~arb/speleo/guides.html
http://www.showcaves.com
http://www.mike.munro.cwc.net/mining/tony_o/tonyo_hp.htm
http://www.showcaves.com/foreign/Big/F003-003.jpg
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bubba's email
From: Tony Oldham <tonyfoldham@hotmail.com>
To: bubba's email
Subject: RE: New Personal Message: Re: Wiki
Sent: 18 October 2006 08:34:01
Dear Mike
There was a further problem. Whilst I was wallowing in Wiki I could not access my Hotmail, so your messages went unread. I was not trying to ignore you. Usually I only access Hotmail twice a day as I use the computer in the library and that is all I am allowed.
Cheers - Tony Oldham
Duncavin
1 Riverside Mews
CARDIGAN
SA43 1DH
United Kingdom
http://www.sat.dundee.ac.uk/~arb/speleo/guides.html
http://www.showcaves.com
http://www.mike.munro.cwc.net/mining/tony_o/tonyo_hp.htm
http://www.showcaves.com/foreign/Big/F003-003.jpg
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emgee
Guest
Cave_Troll said:
Certainly the ISBN should be acceptable. Personally I'd like a few lines of description of the contents too. Linking to the likes of Amazon strikes me as totally unacceptable.
bubba
Administrator
It's ok rhychydwr1, I know it was just a communication breakdown. The main reason I blocked your account was because I'd seen that you weren't online on ukb, so an email/PM wouldn't have got to you anyway. If my mailserver rejected your message then I might have been doing a reboot or something. I did come across a bit OTT on here though, so I apologise for that 
On another note, it's a bad idea to post your email address here - it'll get harvested by spam-bots and you'll just end up with more crap in your mailbox. It's better to ask people to PM you or email you through the site. That way, your email address isn't on display.
I'm not convinced amazon links should be there either. I know amazon is a superb bookseller, but it's not the only way people buy books - it's better to give them the choice.
I've seen some links on there that instead of taking you to Amazon, they take you to a listings page of online booksellers. I think this is better, because it allows people to add thier preferred retailer to the list, either as an external link or an address/phone no.
I've thought about setting up an amazon affiliate account so that people (if they want) can use that to buy their preferred book and help donate to the running costs of ukb at the same time. I'm not trying to force people to do that so it would just be an option alongside a regular amazon link. If that seems wrong to anyone then plz discuss.
On another note, it's a bad idea to post your email address here - it'll get harvested by spam-bots and you'll just end up with more crap in your mailbox. It's better to ask people to PM you or email you through the site. That way, your email address isn't on display.
The ISBN is perfect.emgee said:
I'm not convinced amazon links should be there either. I know amazon is a superb bookseller, but it's not the only way people buy books - it's better to give them the choice.
I've seen some links on there that instead of taking you to Amazon, they take you to a listings page of online booksellers. I think this is better, because it allows people to add thier preferred retailer to the list, either as an external link or an address/phone no.
I've thought about setting up an amazon affiliate account so that people (if they want) can use that to buy their preferred book and help donate to the running costs of ukb at the same time. I'm not trying to force people to do that so it would just be an option alongside a regular amazon link. If that seems wrong to anyone then plz discuss.
RobinGriffiths
Well-known member
I think the idea for the publication list would be for each link to have a mini review or where appropriate historical notes. I put the Amazon links in as a quick and dirty fix to some content to encourage addition to the list. As with a suggestion elsewhere, external links in the publication article could point to amazon or whatever.
Robin
Robin
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cucc Paul
Guest
I dont think any one would mind so much if you linked to amazon and had an affiliate account with them too much Bubba, amazon is a good website and you have to try and make the ends meet if this is an easy way thats not too intrusive all the better... The other thing we found is once our wiki got going we needed a bigger bandwidth quota and more web space.
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emgee
Guest
cucc Paul said:
You think wrong. At least one person would.
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cucc Paul
Guest
I knew thinking was dangerous :-\
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emgee
Guest
SamT said:
I'd rather the board stayed free of advertising. Particularly for the likes of Amazon.