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Moorhouse is back!

kay

Well-known member
Turner said:
going to have to pull up the rules of the internet here.......

i think rule 20 applies kay......

You mean to your original? Fair enough. I've never been good at humour  ;)

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Fair enough Kay, I know that you mean.
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Thanks Bubba
 

Servo

New member
Turns out he likes to Twitter too: -

https://twitter.com/lohtse

Think my favourites are:
In need of a walking, caving, climbing partner.....
4:11 AM Aug 2nd from Echofon

and
What a great Caving trip. down there SOLO. As always P8 (in Peak district) provides a fine sporty trip. Wonderfully wet.
8:01 AM Aug 1st from TweetDeck
 
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george

Guest
So the suicide stuff was last posted in June, so he obviously didn't do it as he put his ladder up for sale 2 days ago. Is he now a happier man? Is he content with life?
Has he got a new job (assuming the rescue stuff is just fantasy) - someone must work with him or for him or something, maybe things have picked up a little for Andrew.
How about his plans to finish off the 10 highest mountains in the world - how's that coming along?
 

Peter Burgess

New member
I hope none of us ever have the misfortune to feel like that. I don't think people write stuff like that as a joke. On the home page of that online self-help community is the following:

"We strongly believe in an open and non-judgemental atmosphere which we feel has helped so many people already."

I wonder how some of the posts on here would go down if transposed to that site.
 

teabag

New member
"In 1998 during a rescue she died. Myself, a colleague and Louise fell over 400ms, They died I didn't . Louise wasn't a member of my team but often turned out with us if she was with me. As the team leader I allowed her to help."
Is it just me or does this scare anyone else?
 

Servo

New member
teabag said:
"In 1998 during a rescue she died. Myself, a colleague and Louise fell over 400ms, They died I didn't . Louise wasn't a member of my team but often turned out with us if she was with me. As the team leader I allowed her to help."
Is it just me or does this scare anyone else?
A 400m fall is quite impressive. The average person will reach Terminal Velocity after about 3 seconds of free fall, at a speed of around 120 - 140mph and in a distance of only around 35m. Effectively you may as well have fallen from 10,000m as you would have still hit the ground the same!
 
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scoobz

Guest
I have been friends with Andrew for the past 4 months, and contrary to what people are saying in here, he is not "a complete loon". I can't believe what some people who have probably never met him are coming out with in here. He has obviously got problems, and coming in here to defend himself won't happen as most of the posters will know. So how about sticking to facts, and not resorting to insults and insinuations, or is this the level that this Forum normally lowers itself to?
 

Peter Burgess

New member
Hi Scoobz - by and large we are pretty much a level-headed online community. But, much as in any online forum, when the mob mentality kicks in, the inevitable result is some degree of character assassination from the minority. So yes, this Forum does descend to the level you describe, which is sad, but we are pretty well moderated, in fairness to the mods.
 

Coxie

New member
Setting up his rescue team is clearly a coping strategy for him to deal with his loss, whether it's realistic or not doesn't make any difference, he's dealing with it as best he can.

It would make sense that this recent incident was to stage a successful rescue, as was suggested earlier. Who knows how many times he has succeeded in doing this in order to deal with his issues.

There must be something we can do to get this guy some help.  He is a real risk to himself and unsuspecting others.

And yes he deserves some sympathy... It could happen to anyone of us and who's telling how we would deal with it.
 

Brains

Well-known member
Servo said:
teabag said:
"In 1998 during a rescue she died. Myself, a colleague and Louise fell over 400ms, They died I didn't . Louise wasn't a member of my team but often turned out with us if she was with me. As the team leader I allowed her to help."
Is it just me or does this scare anyone else?
A 400m fall is quite impressive. The average person will reach Terminal Velocity after about 3 seconds of free fall, at a speed of around 120 - 140mph and in a distance of only around 35m. Effectively you may as well have fallen from 10,000m as you would have still hit the ground the same!
I assumed this to mean either 400m of altitude, or perhaps 400m across the ground but not as freefall, perhaps down steep ground / snow-ice. To find a 400m freefall is quite an impressive undertaking but not at all impossible.
 

david3392

Member
OK, enough is enough.  I'm talking about Turner's comments urging Mr Moorhouse to jump off Monsel (sic) viaduct.  Has anyone here actually worked in mental health? I spent 5 years working with MH crisis teams dealing with people like Mr Moorhouse on a daily basis. ANY suicide threat, no matter how manipulative, was taken very seriously as an indicator of ill health. I have been to more than one inquest where 'nobody thought he would actually DO it'. Making jokes and ridiculing thoughts and feelings can end in tragedy.  Shame on you for wishing death on a person you have probably never met and shame on this forum for allowing it to progress to this level.

While I'm at it, has anyone read the legal definition of slander/defamation? :read: It seems as if Mr Moorhouse has ample grounds for taking legal action if he wanted to.  Don't think the internet is immune from this.  I'm sure that administrators and owners of forums could face ruin if a case was proved.  It would be a shame to see this forum closed due to hysterical, abusive, threatening and non-regulated comments.  By the way, slander can be proved even when the facts may be correct. 

This current line of abuse and crude analysis of his mental health does us no favours and is already attracting attention from external forums and individuals.  Stop it now please.
 

bubba

Administrator
Coxie said:
Setting up his rescue team is clearly a coping strategy for him to deal with his loss
What loss? Did any of that really happen? It sounds made up to me tbh.

scoobz said:
I have been friends with Andrew for the past 4 months, and contrary to what people are saying in here, he is not "a complete loon". I can't believe what some people who have probably never met him are coming out with in here.
So perhaps you can put the record straight then? What are his motives for preying on beginners and gaining their trust by giving them a misleading picture of his expertise, and inventing bogus credentials?
 

Turner

New member
david3392 said:
OK, enough is enough.  I'm talking about Turner's comments urging Mr Moorhouse to jump off Monsel (sic) viaduct.

Hardly the case, get with it.....

my point was if he seriously wanted to do it he'd have done it.

All you have done is completely twisted the context of what i said....
 

bubba

Administrator
david3392 said:
OK, enough is enough.  I'm talking about Turner's comments urging Mr Moorhouse to jump off Monsel (sic) viaduct.
That post has been deleted - I agree, it was offensive. However, I personally don't believe what was posted on that support forum anyway - imo he's invented a tragic accident scenario in order to get sympathy, but hey, I guess it could all be true.

david3392 said:
It seems as if Mr Moorhouse has ample grounds for taking legal action if he wanted to.  Don't think the internet is immune from this.  I'm sure that administrators and owners of forums could face ruin if a case was proved.  It would be a shame to see this forum closed due to hysterical, abusive, threatening and non-regulated comments.
Legal action against who exactly? And on what grounds exactly? He has no grounds for taking legal action against ukcaving imo - also read the registration agreement that everyone signed up to.
 
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