Peter Burgess
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On the basis of what has beed posted here, then even if you think it is inappropriate to sympathise with Mr Moorhouse, then at least try to empathise with him, and if that is not possible, then say nothing.
Moorhouse is back!
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Stoneyman 1
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RobinGriffiths said:
Thanks Robin, you have put it so well.
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Turner
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what get me is.....
* he posts on a suicide forum, about an accident that his him very very hard (enough to post on there etc.)
* Am i correct in saying that he was involved/caused (be it negligence or lack of knowledge i dont know) an accident dow giants at garlands, that resulted in a rescue, please correct me if i'm wrong.
*Then he put other novices in danger again (at garlands) and from what the gut who was there posted, quite pushy to get people to go down there.....
well.....either the first bit is a load of drivel..... or if its all true the guy is going to keep on doing it. because tbh if i was involved in the first kind of act involving a death, even if it didn't phase me emotionless, the brain would kick in and say "ey up lad....give this lark a rest". Not keep doing it.....
At the end of the day YES i madre some childish posts, YES i made some stupid posts but at the end of the day this is a serious matter, and this chap needs reporting to the authorities as its clear he is and is going to put people in danger.
TBH there is a lot of PC warrior posts on here..... the thread doesnt want binning.
Bubba may i suggest that you clean it up (bin all the daft comments/arguing), lock it and Pin it so all can view.
* he posts on a suicide forum, about an accident that his him very very hard (enough to post on there etc.)
* Am i correct in saying that he was involved/caused (be it negligence or lack of knowledge i dont know) an accident dow giants at garlands, that resulted in a rescue, please correct me if i'm wrong.
*Then he put other novices in danger again (at garlands) and from what the gut who was there posted, quite pushy to get people to go down there.....
well.....either the first bit is a load of drivel..... or if its all true the guy is going to keep on doing it. because tbh if i was involved in the first kind of act involving a death, even if it didn't phase me emotionless, the brain would kick in and say "ey up lad....give this lark a rest". Not keep doing it.....
At the end of the day YES i madre some childish posts, YES i made some stupid posts but at the end of the day this is a serious matter, and this chap needs reporting to the authorities as its clear he is and is going to put people in danger.
TBH there is a lot of PC warrior posts on here..... the thread doesnt want binning.
Bubba may i suggest that you clean it up (bin all the daft comments/arguing), lock it and Pin it so all can view.
Peter Burgess
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Turner, do you personally know anyone who has either written or talked about self-harm or suicide?
Peter Burgess
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I'll not shoot you down. It's a sensible question.martinr said:
bubba
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Unfortunately there isn't such an authority. It's not illegal to make false claims about your leadership skills/experience. It's not illegal to say that you're part of a non-existent rescue team.Turner said:
Perhaps if he were doing it for money, ie running courses/outdoor instruction then such things would be illegal but since he does it by befriending newcomers to the sport there's little that can be done.
I believe that he is well known to both the police and the local rescue organisations. I used to work with a guy from the local MRT and he's now fully aware of what's been going on.
typical....Peter Burgess
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Turner said:
Because, (and I suppose it very much depends on the troubled individual), I would never try to second guess the motives of someone who had, for fear of aggravating the situation. Because I am not an expert, and wouldn't pretend to be one. That's all.
bubba
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Just because somebody has mental health issues it doesn't mean that they should be tip-toed around and allowed free reign to involve other people in their fantasy-world.
I'm fully aware of the seriousness of some of these topics, in fact I have first hand experience of both myself and my partner feeling suicidal in the past. Depression for me, other reasons for my partner. That doesn't mean that just because I felt that way I should have been allowed to go round conning other people. Yes, it's sad that he has felt that way and everyone who's met him says he comes across as a nice bloke, but that's not what's at stake here.
I'm fully aware of the seriousness of some of these topics, in fact I have first hand experience of both myself and my partner feeling suicidal in the past. Depression for me, other reasons for my partner. That doesn't mean that just because I felt that way I should have been allowed to go round conning other people. Yes, it's sad that he has felt that way and everyone who's met him says he comes across as a nice bloke, but that's not what's at stake here.
Peter Burgess
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I think that point has been very clearly made throughout this topic, nobody has disagreed with this in that respect, and as such what more is there to say? Any more is either unnecesary repetition, or not relevant. That is why I believe the great majority of those who have expressed their view in the "other" thread have asked for this topic to be either locked or deleted. Because as long as it is open, there is the opportunity for potentially harmful comment to be made, intentionally or otherwise. The discussion has run its course and served its purpose (as far as Bubba has defined its purpose).
i have read all the messages on this thread
i have been strung along by andrew moorhouse for the last couple of yrs
he told me on thursday the 24th feb he was going to commit suicide
i have been waitin since friday for someone to come and tell me this is wot he has done
i then stumbled across this website
and you can imagine wot i am now feelin
so for all of you who say live and let live
or leave him alone wot harm is he doin
well let ,e tell you he is doin harm
to ppl like me
ppl who trust him either bein in the climbin or cavin world
or on a personel level so yes this guy needs stopped
i have a phone number that i am passing onto the police
he talked about suicide for 2 yrs and gave me a bullshit story about why he couldn,t live anymore
so guys try bein where i am now its not funny and i dare say not funny for the ppl who have been injured durin his stupidity
kate
i have been strung along by andrew moorhouse for the last couple of yrs
he told me on thursday the 24th feb he was going to commit suicide
i have been waitin since friday for someone to come and tell me this is wot he has done
i then stumbled across this website
and you can imagine wot i am now feelin
so for all of you who say live and let live
or leave him alone wot harm is he doin
well let ,e tell you he is doin harm
to ppl like me
ppl who trust him either bein in the climbin or cavin world
or on a personel level so yes this guy needs stopped
i have a phone number that i am passing onto the police
he talked about suicide for 2 yrs and gave me a bullshit story about why he couldn,t live anymore
so guys try bein where i am now its not funny and i dare say not funny for the ppl who have been injured durin his stupidity
kate
Burt
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If I were you Kate, I'd pass on his details and a few examples of his work to the local plod, then delete everything you have on him from your life.
There's way more good people than bad 'uns. Join a local caving club, have few beers and talk to lots of people, then maybe go caving with one of the good ones.
Good luck!
There's way more good people than bad 'uns. Join a local caving club, have few beers and talk to lots of people, then maybe go caving with one of the good ones.
Good luck!
Newbie2013
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Andrew Moorhouse is still the liar and conman that is suggested on the Internet forums however is now using a different name...
I met Andrew Gilleard through a dating website, first impressions are that he is a gentleman. Andrew told me that he was an active member of search and rescue as well as an outwards bounds instructor. He also stated that he was an active reserve in the army, often working with the civilian police. The skills that this man claims to have is unbelievable (I know that now..) he slowly fed me a pack of lies about who he is and what he does. As I have now found out Andrew Moorhouse is his real name and he is a compulsive liar and cannot be trusted. He has not got any outdoor qualifications but does come across as knowing what he is doing - but he doesn't. What his aim is I'm not sure but there is an element of financial gain. If you are female and says he loves you, wants to marry you and hasn't felt that way since his fianc? died - well he's said it all before. There is so much more I could say about this man however all I'm going to say is avoid this man.
I met Andrew Gilleard through a dating website, first impressions are that he is a gentleman. Andrew told me that he was an active member of search and rescue as well as an outwards bounds instructor. He also stated that he was an active reserve in the army, often working with the civilian police. The skills that this man claims to have is unbelievable (I know that now..) he slowly fed me a pack of lies about who he is and what he does. As I have now found out Andrew Moorhouse is his real name and he is a compulsive liar and cannot be trusted. He has not got any outdoor qualifications but does come across as knowing what he is doing - but he doesn't. What his aim is I'm not sure but there is an element of financial gain. If you are female and says he loves you, wants to marry you and hasn't felt that way since his fianc? died - well he's said it all before. There is so much more I could say about this man however all I'm going to say is avoid this man.
cap n chris
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Newbie2013 said:
Just quoted this post and re-titled the thread so that bots pick it up and help increase the likelihood of success for anyone searching for information about "Mr. Infamous".
chrisporcheret
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http://web.archive.org/web/20030106223841/http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/andrewmoorhouse/index.html
This monkeys website,
Some comedy material here, he says he is 30, and joined the army from school in 1989.... so he was 6/7 years old?
He also gets called upon for regular service, I myself am in the army and I can tell you now that it never will happen unles ww3 kicks of ( at the moment who knows)
What a monkey.
This monkeys website,
Some comedy material here, he says he is 30, and joined the army from school in 1989.... so he was 6/7 years old?
He also gets called upon for regular service, I myself am in the army and I can tell you now that it never will happen unles ww3 kicks of ( at the moment who knows)
What a monkey.
SpeleoTrog
Member
It's an archive page from January 2003, which would mean he was 16/17.
The bloke's enough of an arse to provide plenty of material without us taking the piss out of the bits that could be right!
The bloke's enough of an arse to provide plenty of material without us taking the piss out of the bits that could be right!
chrisporcheret
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JessopSmythe said:
Fair one. I misread the date.
Still wouldn't believe someone like that got in the army and through training though lol
