Nellie Kirkhams Field Notes
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Moose
New member
A thought about an online home for this - among a myriad of other things, I'm working on the new version of the PDMHS website, could we possibly host the files there at some point in the future, along with an index?
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An online home for this? In addition to the one we've already got?
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An online home for this? In addition to the one we've already got?
graham
New member
Moose said:
I suspect that what AR means is a web page that can be searched for and found as opposed to a DropBox folder where you need to know the address even before you go looking.
A permanent home would also imply that the files themselves were hosted somewhere that did not depend on a personal account. To my mind, the PDMHS site would be the obvious place to start looking for material such as this.
Mark
Well-known member
Good point Moose
Box 5
https://www.dropbox.com/s/d1ptxa2tbz9re50/5.%20XVI%20NE%20F7%20-%2015Z89.pdf?dl=0
Box 6
https://www.dropbox.com/s/66ldimth42x8wlv/6.%20XVI%20SE%20A6%2031-79.pdf?dl=0
Box 7
https://www.dropbox.com/s/078lsuj8ic1mmos/7.%20XVI%20NE%20F7%20-%2015Z90.pdf?dl=0
Box 8
https://www.dropbox.com/s/tw12lttv40d0wit/8.%20XVI%20NE%20G7%20-%20XVI%20SE%20A6_30.%20XVI%20SW.pdf?dl=0
Box 5
https://www.dropbox.com/s/d1ptxa2tbz9re50/5.%20XVI%20NE%20F7%20-%2015Z89.pdf?dl=0
Box 6
https://www.dropbox.com/s/66ldimth42x8wlv/6.%20XVI%20SE%20A6%2031-79.pdf?dl=0
Box 7
https://www.dropbox.com/s/078lsuj8ic1mmos/7.%20XVI%20NE%20F7%20-%2015Z90.pdf?dl=0
Box 8
https://www.dropbox.com/s/tw12lttv40d0wit/8.%20XVI%20NE%20G7%20-%20XVI%20SE%20A6_30.%20XVI%20SW.pdf?dl=0
AR
Well-known member
Graham has pretty much summed up my thinking; although this thread may come up on a search it would be good to have a compact and collected location for them, plus I'm a great believer in having stuff like this in more than one location.
I'm afraid it won't be particularly quick as I've not been able to devote enough time to building the new site as I'd like but I'm working on the "resources" section as and when I get chance. A question - does anyone have a good photo of Nellie Kirkham that I could use?
I'm afraid it won't be particularly quick as I've not been able to devote enough time to building the new site as I'd like but I'm working on the "resources" section as and when I get chance. A question - does anyone have a good photo of Nellie Kirkham that I could use?
Wayland Smith
Active member
The BCA host a number of sites on their server at reasonable cost.
It would be appropriate to speak to them about web space for this project rather that hitching it onto a club site.
In the first instance contact "Cooky"
webservices@british-caving.org.uk
It would be appropriate to speak to them about web space for this project rather that hitching it onto a club site.
In the first instance contact "Cooky"
webservices@british-caving.org.uk
alastairgott
Well-known member
Nowhere near done yet but:
Shaw Engine 8.2
Copper 8.3
Eyam 8.7
Provincial Words 8.12
Bee Keeping 8.16
Bees 8.21
Manifold Quarries, Ecton 8.27
Calver Sough 8.30
Millersdale Bee Bole cut out of limestone crag 8.31
Christopher Fullwood 8.50
Carlswalk 8.57
Watergrove mine, Bamford/bamforth hole, Oakenedge 8.60
Hucklow Edge Great Rake 8.61
Moorwood Sough 8.65
36 Smiling Fanny 8.68
Forest of High Peak 8.76
Ebbing and Flowing Well, Tideswell 8.79
Shaft? In Haddon Hall? 8.80
Hazelbadge Cave, grren dale, near tideswell 8.81
Giants hole Area 8.86
Moss Rake 8.87
Pic Tor End Mine 8.89
Maiden Rake Soughs, Near Little Hucklow 8.91
Winding up a copper by Pretending to be a corpse in a coffin 8.92
Secret Passage from Wheeton Hall to Tideswell Church 8.93
Watergrove Sough 8.97
Silence mine 8.98
Oakenedge Sough, Eyam Dale 8.99
Mines of Eyam 8.103
Slaters Mine 8.105
Silence Mine 8.106
Red Water 8.118
Hucklow Edge Vein Mines 8.121
Black Hole Mine 8.124
Ladywash Mine 8.127
Broadlow Area 8.128
Moorwood sough tail 8.133
Little Pasture- Old Pasture 8.135
Moorwood 8.136
Slaters Engine 8.138
Upper Odin 8.140
Slaters Engine, Bradshaw Lane, Foolow 8.141
Black Hole 8.143
Slaters Sough 8.146
Waterfall Swallet 8.148
Stoney Middleton 8.150
Hole With Potential Somewhere near Eyam 8.152
Waterfall Hole, Eyam and Alan Ashwell 8.158
Veins Near Waterfall Swallet, Eyam- Crosslow Rake Vein, Black Hole Vein
Cressbrook Dale, Peter's Dale, Great Dale 8.163
Hay Dale, Re Boundary of Ashford 8.165
Wardlow 8.166
Wardlow Sough and Seedlow Rake 8.172
Arbor Seates Mine 8.173
Sough Vein (wardlow) and Seedlow Vein 8.177
Baked Clay Bed- "Volcanic Mud" 8.179
Maley Sough (Mawrey) 8.180
Crimbo Rake, Wham Sough, Hardshead Sough 8.183
Family Tree of John Wolstenholme? 8.184
Wham Sough and HandyHead Sough 8.185
Maurey Sough 8.186
Chelmorton Thorn 8.188
Illy Willy Water 8.189
Plan of Maury Mine, Taddington Liberty 8.190
Rantor Engine Shaft, Rantor Mine 8.191
Maurey Mine 8.192
Godfrey Hole, near Wirksworth 8.193
Greenwood Map, Priestcliff 8.198
Again it's in excel form here so i'll share once complete.
Shaw Engine 8.2
Copper 8.3
Eyam 8.7
Provincial Words 8.12
Bee Keeping 8.16
Bees 8.21
Manifold Quarries, Ecton 8.27
Calver Sough 8.30
Millersdale Bee Bole cut out of limestone crag 8.31
Christopher Fullwood 8.50
Carlswalk 8.57
Watergrove mine, Bamford/bamforth hole, Oakenedge 8.60
Hucklow Edge Great Rake 8.61
Moorwood Sough 8.65
36 Smiling Fanny 8.68
Forest of High Peak 8.76
Ebbing and Flowing Well, Tideswell 8.79
Shaft? In Haddon Hall? 8.80
Hazelbadge Cave, grren dale, near tideswell 8.81
Giants hole Area 8.86
Moss Rake 8.87
Pic Tor End Mine 8.89
Maiden Rake Soughs, Near Little Hucklow 8.91
Winding up a copper by Pretending to be a corpse in a coffin 8.92
Secret Passage from Wheeton Hall to Tideswell Church 8.93
Watergrove Sough 8.97
Silence mine 8.98
Oakenedge Sough, Eyam Dale 8.99
Mines of Eyam 8.103
Slaters Mine 8.105
Silence Mine 8.106
Red Water 8.118
Hucklow Edge Vein Mines 8.121
Black Hole Mine 8.124
Ladywash Mine 8.127
Broadlow Area 8.128
Moorwood sough tail 8.133
Little Pasture- Old Pasture 8.135
Moorwood 8.136
Slaters Engine 8.138
Upper Odin 8.140
Slaters Engine, Bradshaw Lane, Foolow 8.141
Black Hole 8.143
Slaters Sough 8.146
Waterfall Swallet 8.148
Stoney Middleton 8.150
Hole With Potential Somewhere near Eyam 8.152
Waterfall Hole, Eyam and Alan Ashwell 8.158
Veins Near Waterfall Swallet, Eyam- Crosslow Rake Vein, Black Hole Vein
Cressbrook Dale, Peter's Dale, Great Dale 8.163
Hay Dale, Re Boundary of Ashford 8.165
Wardlow 8.166
Wardlow Sough and Seedlow Rake 8.172
Arbor Seates Mine 8.173
Sough Vein (wardlow) and Seedlow Vein 8.177
Baked Clay Bed- "Volcanic Mud" 8.179
Maley Sough (Mawrey) 8.180
Crimbo Rake, Wham Sough, Hardshead Sough 8.183
Family Tree of John Wolstenholme? 8.184
Wham Sough and HandyHead Sough 8.185
Maurey Sough 8.186
Chelmorton Thorn 8.188
Illy Willy Water 8.189
Plan of Maury Mine, Taddington Liberty 8.190
Rantor Engine Shaft, Rantor Mine 8.191
Maurey Mine 8.192
Godfrey Hole, near Wirksworth 8.193
Greenwood Map, Priestcliff 8.198
Again it's in excel form here so i'll share once complete.
Mark
Well-known member
Good work Alastair
Box 9
https://www.dropbox.com/s/2i8eu1mem4kag9s/9.%20XVI%20SE%20A6%2015.1%20-%20XXI%20NE%20.%20XVI%20SE%20A11%201-11.pdf?dl=0
Box 10
https://www.dropbox.com/s/8nbhzcll4m96gqa/10.%20XXI%20NW%20A5%20-%20XXIII%20NW%20A8.pdf?dl=0
Box 11
https://www.dropbox.com/s/n57zov85hvgbi0c/11.%20XXIII%20SW%20D7%20-%20XXVIII%20NW%20A12.pdf?dl=0
Box 12
https://www.dropbox.com/s/y319qvposcipbro/12.%20XXIII%20SW%20A7%20-%20XXIII%20SW%20D6%20%28174%29.pdf?dl=0
Maybe we could have a pinned topic with just the dropbox links in, at the top of the Derbyshire section?
Box 9
https://www.dropbox.com/s/2i8eu1mem4kag9s/9.%20XVI%20SE%20A6%2015.1%20-%20XXI%20NE%20.%20XVI%20SE%20A11%201-11.pdf?dl=0
Box 10
https://www.dropbox.com/s/8nbhzcll4m96gqa/10.%20XXI%20NW%20A5%20-%20XXIII%20NW%20A8.pdf?dl=0
Box 11
https://www.dropbox.com/s/n57zov85hvgbi0c/11.%20XXIII%20SW%20D7%20-%20XXVIII%20NW%20A12.pdf?dl=0
Box 12
https://www.dropbox.com/s/y319qvposcipbro/12.%20XXIII%20SW%20A7%20-%20XXIII%20SW%20D6%20%28174%29.pdf?dl=0
Maybe we could have a pinned topic with just the dropbox links in, at the top of the Derbyshire section?
Mrs Trellis
Well-known member
Box 5 has some good stuff on Hazard & Hollandtwine (HollowTwine?) including a map marking Hollandtwine on page 100. Plus a poignant moment - the passing of Eli Simpson (Cymmie/Simmie(sic)) in 1962.
Ted_Mullins
New member
Great stuff Mark. I now have one pdf spanning 1946 to 1954.
alastairgott
Well-known member
I've started with Box 7 and i'm slightly wishing I hadn't!
There's a lot of Weighty legal Stuff Regarding the Bagshaw Estate and also lots of information about the documents that sheffield library hold, Presumably as notes towards the law suit. so not much actual detail, although it could be in there somewhere!
7.66 onwards is a lovely document
Not quite sure i'm doing it justice, so once i've done the excel sheet it might well need some adjustment.
Black Engine, Hucklow Edge Vein 7.3
Mock Mine, High Rake 7.7
Hucklow Edge 7.8
High Rake Mine 7.13
Index of Items at Sheffield Library in 1963 7.24
Plan of Township of Calver 7.27
List of Photocopies from Bagshawe collection, sheffield 7.28
Mandale mine 7.55
Victory Level 7.60
Nether Hubberdale Pipe, Taddington 7.66
Hubba Dale, Wham and Wheat Sough, Liberty of Taddington and Flagg 7.76
Whale Sough 7.80
Auton Cross Sough 7.80
Stoke Sough and Ladywash Mine 7.80
Auton Croft 7.81
Brightside 7.82
Cromford Sough 7.83
Stoke sough, Ladywash Works and North Vein 7.85
Cheese Left at bus stop with dog, shop owner asked if she could put the cheese and dog onto the bus 7.87
Archives of the Bagshaw Family of the Oakes in Norton, in sheffield central library 7.88
Wormhill Estate 7.95
Derbyshire Turnpike Roads 7.97
Craven Estates (west Riding) 7.98
Grassington Leadmines 7.99
Misc Printed Maps 7.100
Key to Exploration Map, Ladywash, Shaw Engine, Stoke Sough Old Engine, Stoke Sough New Engine 7.103
Gould Rake 7.105
Ribor Mine 7.106
Internal Shaft in Glebe Mine 7.106
Eyam Craunch 7.108
Black Engine Mound, Middleton Engine 7.110
*Collection of Books in Jim Riewerts Possession: the W.A. Kirkby Collection 7.111
Sheffield Central Library 7.118
Stoke Sough and Moorwood Engine 7.121
High Rake Mine 7.125
Hassop Sough 7.127
Letter from Sheffield Library- regarding some Record numbers 7.134
Bagshaw v Spencer (1731) 7.136
Chancery Proceedings 1714-58 7.144
Bagshaw & spencer lead mines 7.145
Bagshaw law suits- loose your wits over them 7.147
Bagshaw Chancery Proceedings 7.149
Tideslow Rake 7.154
Tideswell Rake 7.155
Survey of Black Engine mine, Middleton Engine, top Twelve meers and Old Twelve meers mine 7.162
Grindlow Liberty Diagram 7.171
There's a lot of Weighty legal Stuff Regarding the Bagshaw Estate and also lots of information about the documents that sheffield library hold, Presumably as notes towards the law suit. so not much actual detail, although it could be in there somewhere!
7.66 onwards is a lovely document
Not quite sure i'm doing it justice, so once i've done the excel sheet it might well need some adjustment.
Black Engine, Hucklow Edge Vein 7.3
Mock Mine, High Rake 7.7
Hucklow Edge 7.8
High Rake Mine 7.13
Index of Items at Sheffield Library in 1963 7.24
Plan of Township of Calver 7.27
List of Photocopies from Bagshawe collection, sheffield 7.28
Mandale mine 7.55
Victory Level 7.60
Nether Hubberdale Pipe, Taddington 7.66
Hubba Dale, Wham and Wheat Sough, Liberty of Taddington and Flagg 7.76
Whale Sough 7.80
Auton Cross Sough 7.80
Stoke Sough and Ladywash Mine 7.80
Auton Croft 7.81
Brightside 7.82
Cromford Sough 7.83
Stoke sough, Ladywash Works and North Vein 7.85
Cheese Left at bus stop with dog, shop owner asked if she could put the cheese and dog onto the bus 7.87
Archives of the Bagshaw Family of the Oakes in Norton, in sheffield central library 7.88
Wormhill Estate 7.95
Derbyshire Turnpike Roads 7.97
Craven Estates (west Riding) 7.98
Grassington Leadmines 7.99
Misc Printed Maps 7.100
Key to Exploration Map, Ladywash, Shaw Engine, Stoke Sough Old Engine, Stoke Sough New Engine 7.103
Gould Rake 7.105
Ribor Mine 7.106
Internal Shaft in Glebe Mine 7.106
Eyam Craunch 7.108
Black Engine Mound, Middleton Engine 7.110
*Collection of Books in Jim Riewerts Possession: the W.A. Kirkby Collection 7.111
Sheffield Central Library 7.118
Stoke Sough and Moorwood Engine 7.121
High Rake Mine 7.125
Hassop Sough 7.127
Letter from Sheffield Library- regarding some Record numbers 7.134
Bagshaw v Spencer (1731) 7.136
Chancery Proceedings 1714-58 7.144
Bagshaw & spencer lead mines 7.145
Bagshaw law suits- loose your wits over them 7.147
Bagshaw Chancery Proceedings 7.149
Tideslow Rake 7.154
Tideswell Rake 7.155
Survey of Black Engine mine, Middleton Engine, top Twelve meers and Old Twelve meers mine 7.162
Grindlow Liberty Diagram 7.171
Mark
Well-known member
Alastair has completed the index for box 8 (cracking Job)
Index Box 8
https://www.dropbox.com/s/idpcfqal8d1zn0d/8-%20Box%20Index.pdf?dl=0
Box 13
https://www.dropbox.com/s/272e9rgqeen69fd/13.%20XXIII%20NW%20B6%20-%20XXIII%20NE%20D9.pdf?dl=0
Box 14
https://www.dropbox.com/s/vdiyzfici2qu83p/14.%20XVI%20SE%20A6%2080%20-%20150.pdf?dl=0
Box 15
https://www.dropbox.com/s/x1weffo87y0zl3t/15.%20XXVIII%20NW%20A12%20-%20XXVIII%20NE%20E6.pdf?dl=0
Box 16
https://www.dropbox.com/s/hy7udxbhan93aqe/16.%20XXVIII%20NE%20F4%20-%20XXVIII%20SE%20F6.pdf?dl=0
Index Box 8
https://www.dropbox.com/s/idpcfqal8d1zn0d/8-%20Box%20Index.pdf?dl=0
Box 13
https://www.dropbox.com/s/272e9rgqeen69fd/13.%20XXIII%20NW%20B6%20-%20XXIII%20NE%20D9.pdf?dl=0
Box 14
https://www.dropbox.com/s/vdiyzfici2qu83p/14.%20XVI%20SE%20A6%2080%20-%20150.pdf?dl=0
Box 15
https://www.dropbox.com/s/x1weffo87y0zl3t/15.%20XXVIII%20NW%20A12%20-%20XXVIII%20NE%20E6.pdf?dl=0
Box 16
https://www.dropbox.com/s/hy7udxbhan93aqe/16.%20XXVIII%20NE%20F4%20-%20XXVIII%20SE%20F6.pdf?dl=0
Mark
Well-known member
A couple of plans to think about
Hurdlow Steel Pipe
https://www.dropbox.com/s/jqrlqm6h8bzqmh9/Hurdlo.pdf?dl=0
Hurdlow Steel Pipe 2
https://www.dropbox.com/s/0poh8h0j1dccn44/Hurdlo_2.pdf?dl=0
Longcliff Mine
https://www.dropbox.com/s/taqaiux1upcpdor/Longcliff.pdf?dl=0
Longcliff Mine 2
https://www.dropbox.com/s/asc2y5cqrs8131f/longcliff2.pdf?dl=0
Plans seem to be mostly Ecton Mines
Will post more when time allows
Hurdlow Steel Pipe
https://www.dropbox.com/s/jqrlqm6h8bzqmh9/Hurdlo.pdf?dl=0
Hurdlow Steel Pipe 2
https://www.dropbox.com/s/0poh8h0j1dccn44/Hurdlo_2.pdf?dl=0
Longcliff Mine
https://www.dropbox.com/s/taqaiux1upcpdor/Longcliff.pdf?dl=0
Longcliff Mine 2
https://www.dropbox.com/s/asc2y5cqrs8131f/longcliff2.pdf?dl=0
Plans seem to be mostly Ecton Mines
Will post more when time allows
This is absolutely brilliant stuff! Many thanks to all those involved in making sure this material is not lost and is accessible to cavers in the future.
Once everything is organised and a permanent host site found (I agree that PDMHS sounds a good one to go for) I would like to include reference to this as part of the British Caving Library [BCL] website links. I am tentatively looking to set up a "database" of caving/mining archives: i.e. a list of existing archives and where they may be found, on-line or not. There are stacks of archives held by libraries, museums, caving clubs, etc. and it would be good to have, hosted on BCL's website, a complete list of what these archives are and where cavers can access them. It's in the blue-sky planning stage at present and I'm aiming to put it to the BCL Steering Group at our next meeting so any comments would be welcome - PM me please.
Jenny Potts
BCRA Library Co-ordinator
Once everything is organised and a permanent host site found (I agree that PDMHS sounds a good one to go for) I would like to include reference to this as part of the British Caving Library [BCL] website links. I am tentatively looking to set up a "database" of caving/mining archives: i.e. a list of existing archives and where they may be found, on-line or not. There are stacks of archives held by libraries, museums, caving clubs, etc. and it would be good to have, hosted on BCL's website, a complete list of what these archives are and where cavers can access them. It's in the blue-sky planning stage at present and I'm aiming to put it to the BCL Steering Group at our next meeting so any comments would be welcome - PM me please.
Jenny Potts
BCRA Library Co-ordinator
Mark
Well-known member
