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PeteHall

Moderator
Paul Marvin said:
I filled up Sat ?1.60 and the same garage on Sun ?1.78  :eek:
I didn't have time to fill up on Saturday at 149.9. They are closed Sunday and by the time they opened this morning it was 153.9. Which came to ?68 for the last 620 miles.

If I'm careful, I can get 700 miles out of the tank, so still less than 10p/mile, which isn't too bad. That's a 2015 Peugeot 208 1.6 diesel (with free road tax) by the way; not quite the old banger, but I worked out it amounted to pretty cheap motoring, even at a ?4k purchase price.

The petrol V8 Land Rover on the other hand...

                                      ...is on the drive in pieces and not costing me anything  :LOL:
 

Mark

Well-known member
Pitlamp said:
Tomferry said:
It was with real regret that I sold it on but it went to a very good home (another caver) and it's still trundling around Derbyshire. Not bad for a vehicle with a registration date 59 years ago.

Still trundling, but he saves that one for best now, he picked up another one for a song locally, they are still out there if you know where to look are a bit of a jammy b*****d  ;)
 

Pitlamp

Well-known member
Mark said:
Pitlamp said:
Tomferry said:
It was with real regret that I sold it on but it went to a very good home (another caver) and it's still trundling around Derbyshire. Not bad for a vehicle with a registration date 59 years ago.

Still trundling, but he saves that one for best now, he picked up another one for a song locally, they are still out there if you know where to look are a bit of a jammy b*****d  ;)

Indeed - but give the lad some credit; he did do a lot of work on the LR he bought from me.

Incidentally it's served the caving community well over a great many years. The bloke I bought it off originally is a caver and digger who lives near Kendal. So it's been around a bit.

Perhaps we ought to have a 60th LR birthday party next year?!
 

Laurie

Active member
I had a wood burner installed last Thursday.
With all these gales we've had lately there's plenty of fuel for the future!
 
We had a big ash tree cut down by the electricity people - I'd just finished turning it into manageable logs and was about to move them somewhere to dry when the floods arrived. They now form a shipping hazard somewhere in the Bristol Channel.
 

Cantclimbtom

Active member
Just filled up the "mighty" Zafira @ ?172.3 litre fancy unleaded (they had run out of E10) yes that was typed correctly :(
 

PeteHall

Moderator
Speleofish said:
We had a big ash tree cut down by the electricity people - I'd just finished turning it into manageable logs and was about to move them somewhere to dry when the floods arrived. They now form a shipping hazard somewhere in the Bristol Channel.

:cry:

If you are down that way, there's a lot of trees either come down due to storms, or been cut down due to ash die back in Burrington Coombe. Take a chainsaw and you'll get as many as you want without scratching the surface of what's there  (y)

I normally stop for half an hour whenever I'm passing and my log pile is now looking quite healthy for next year.
 

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MarkS

Moderator
Laurie said:
If the price of a barrel of oil is the highest since 2014 why aren't the petrol stations charging 2014 prices?  :-\

At the risk of going back on topic, I think it is largely because the price of oil is reported in $ per barrel, but we buy our fuel in ?. The ?/$ exchange rate is much less favourable for us now than it was in 2014 (about $1.30 to the ? now vs $1.70 in 2014).
 

Cantclimbtom

Active member
perhaps worth noting your local petrol station doesn't buy in barrels of crude oil, so if workers refuse to unload oil at Stanlow or any other hiccup it can affect the supply (and so price) of the refinery products in the UK market

And the spot price (right now price) for different grades of crude are only part of the story, the energy market is heavily driven by derivatives, various types of forward contract (options, futures, etc, etc) so  even if oil isn't going up/down now if the market worries that there will be supply problems ahead the derivatives markets may start to do weird things, which in turn affects the price that refineries will pay for the oil

Lastly there is even a derivatives market (mainly traded on the Chicago Mercantile Exchange) for refinery products such as gasoline which also affects price such as https://www.cmegroup.com/trading/energy/refined-products/rbob-gasoline_quotes_volume_voi

The long and short of it is that it's made to be way more complicated than it needs to be and at times muggins like me pay over the odds while a whole industry make money out of the complexity
 

cavemanmike

Member
I had some central heating oil delivered 2 months ago at?380. Just had a quote from the same amount of boiler juice.
?2069.00  :eek: :eek:  :eek:
 

cap n chris

Well-known member
In January last year a therm of gas was 50p. A year later it's ?4.65. 930% increase. It will certainly continue. Have written to MP to suggest public information warnings so impoverished people are alert to the danger of CO poisoning from non-orthodox heating solutions. 
 

Fjell

Member
I got a letter today saying our new estimate is ?6k a year. I think we will go on holiday, it will be cheaper.
 
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