royfellows
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speliox said:
My life, my risk. And as others have mentioned, I never get to see anyone anyway.
Over 70 s are not more likely to carry it, just more likely to snuff it if they get it.
Over 70's to stay in for 3 months!
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My life, my risk. And as others have mentioned, I never get to see anyone anyway.
Over 70 s are not more likely to carry it, just more likely to snuff it if they get it.
Groundhog
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For my part I am not using buses or trains, not going to the climbing wall, not going to the cinema or theatre, not going to restaurants, not going to the pub 
I am not staying in though. I have to walk the dog, I will go on the rock but will just boulder or solo, making sure I don't injure myself of course so as not to put undue pressure on the NHS. I will be doing a lot of fishing. In all these activities I can stay well away from other people. I may go caving if I can find someone who isn't coughing.
I am not staying in though. I have to walk the dog, I will go on the rock but will just boulder or solo, making sure I don't injure myself of course so as not to put undue pressure on the NHS. I will be doing a lot of fishing. In all these activities I can stay well away from other people. I may go caving if I can find someone who isn't coughing.
kay
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Over a four month period, there's all sorts of things to think about - eg both our gas boiler and our security system need their annual service - what do I do? Let the guy let himself in and then avoid touching the boiler for 3 days afterwards? Deliveries are a bit easier - at least I'll be at home. Hopefully we'll come out of this valuing delivery people a bit more than we do at the moment.
royfellows
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My lifestyle is rather solitary anyway. 4 nights a week at martial arts, which will close, and Supermarket shopping twice a week.
"Travelling" involves half a day working on a hill at Cwmystwyth and then lunch at the car, and on to a solo digging project. Never see a soul.
Possibly explains my attitude a bit clearer.
I am OK in my own company.
"Travelling" involves half a day working on a hill at Cwmystwyth and then lunch at the car, and on to a solo digging project. Never see a soul.
Possibly explains my attitude a bit clearer.
I am OK in my own company.
Graigwen
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My isolation ward has no facilities apart from cold running water!
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Warning - political rant.
Is it ironic. I don't know, but a thought occurred to me. We are told that a lot of the over 70's vote Tory and yet the Tory government have been responsible for ten years of austerity cuts to the NHS and worse for social care. Now when we need it most we find the NHS on its knees, a lack of beds, a lack of staff, a lack of ventilators, and social care barely existing. Now to protect the over 70's, in part due to the reduced capacity of the NHS to manage such a pandemic we've all got to drastically change our lives and sit at home. Perhaps it will take this tiny little virus to show our voters that the health of a nation is more important than money and business or the weaselly words of the 'I'm all right Jack' politicians.
Is it ironic. I don't know, but a thought occurred to me. We are told that a lot of the over 70's vote Tory and yet the Tory government have been responsible for ten years of austerity cuts to the NHS and worse for social care. Now when we need it most we find the NHS on its knees, a lack of beds, a lack of staff, a lack of ventilators, and social care barely existing. Now to protect the over 70's, in part due to the reduced capacity of the NHS to manage such a pandemic we've all got to drastically change our lives and sit at home. Perhaps it will take this tiny little virus to show our voters that the health of a nation is more important than money and business or the weaselly words of the 'I'm all right Jack' politicians.
Speleotron
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It's not just about transmission of the virus. If you get hurt in the dig you'll be taking up a much-needed hospital bed. We're all going to have to make some big sacrifices to get through this. We can live without digging for a while.
royfellows
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"With all due respect Roy, it's not just about you. Think about the what if you're unnecessarily taking up a hospital bed because you contracted the virus. Unnecessary because of a 'feck off' attitude."
>Who from?
"It's not just about transmission of the virus. If you get hurt in the dig you'll be taking up a much-needed hospital bed. We're all going to have to make some big sacrifices to get through this. We can live without digging for a while."
>Would't need a hospital bed, it would be a slab when eventually I was got out.
>Who from?
"It's not just about transmission of the virus. If you get hurt in the dig you'll be taking up a much-needed hospital bed. We're all going to have to make some big sacrifices to get through this. We can live without digging for a while."
>Would't need a hospital bed, it would be a slab when eventually I was got out.
Speleotron
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You don't know that. Loads of caving injuries need hospitalisation, and you'd make the rescue team spend a lot of time in close quarters with each other and risk spreading the virus. Cavers aren't special here, we all need to give things up over the next few months.
royfellows
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Here is a thought
Anyone who has the time go to the Office of Public Statistics and look up how many people are killed or injured each year in their own home.
My intelligence tells me that anyone who does stay at home will soon get bored and look for jobs to do around the house. DIY and power tools, step ladders etc.
But falling down stairs is most common one I believe. I live in a bungalow so i suppose this is an inherently safer environment.
Last winter I was carrying stuff from the car in the dark and had both hands full. On an unlit part of the path I tripped and fell right on my chest, a right bang. Having hands full prevented me instinctively rolling out of it. Lucky for me I have a very hard old body from all the stuff I do and ached for a few days but that was it.
Anyone who has the time go to the Office of Public Statistics and look up how many people are killed or injured each year in their own home.
My intelligence tells me that anyone who does stay at home will soon get bored and look for jobs to do around the house. DIY and power tools, step ladders etc.
But falling down stairs is most common one I believe. I live in a bungalow so i suppose this is an inherently safer environment.
Last winter I was carrying stuff from the car in the dark and had both hands full. On an unlit part of the path I tripped and fell right on my chest, a right bang. Having hands full prevented me instinctively rolling out of it. Lucky for me I have a very hard old body from all the stuff I do and ached for a few days but that was it.
Speleotron
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I don't think mooching around the house will ever be as dangerous as digging. Whatever, it's up to your conscience. I would be very annoyed if I needed a hospital bed to get over the disease and it was taken by somebody who'd gone digging, or if I was a CRO member safely isolated in my house and I had to go and rescue somebody and risk bringing the virus back to my family.
Stu
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royfellows said:
Again Roy, respect etc. but today I'm looking at a work diary that has gone blank. Just like that. No work. I have family (wife, two kids). I'm self employed so not entitled to sick pay. I might make the cut off for Universal Credit but by dint of the fact that I have some meager savings, well we'll see.
My wife works in the clinical side of a hospital. She's the breadwinner plus on the frontline for the care of the people who will present in the not so distant future. That's will present, not if. The spread of the virus needs to be contained so we can flatten out the hit on an already beleaguered NHS. We have capacity to look after approx. 0.2% of the population in ICU - about 130,000 beds. Not nearly enough ventilators.
Not going out and potentially spreading the virus (you may or may not ever present with symptoms, you may or may not ever get infected, who knows) is the socially responsible thing to do. Please try to think about what that actually means. No one is saying lock yourself inside for 12 weeks. Great for you (or not as I suspect) that you don't meet people, but you just don't know. Please stop with the blase attitude.
Speleotron
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Selfishness will get a lot of people killed over the next few months. We can live without digging.
tony from suffolk
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Surely the important point to all this is to avoid close contact with other people. Like others here, I live in the back of beyond and walk our dogs every morning. I seldom see a soul and those that I do glimpse are inevitably some distance away, so just a cheery wave. I really cannot see why folk should not go digging, walking the dog, or indulge in other solitary pursuits. It's important for us old fogies to keep fit and active, and as long as we understand how the virus is transmitted, what the symptoms are etc. then we're intelligent enough to keep ourselves and others safe.
A good point from Badland regarding the parlous state of the NHS, made a damn sight worse by the loss of so many nurses, foreign nationals, as a direct result of Brexit.
A good point from Badland regarding the parlous state of the NHS, made a damn sight worse by the loss of so many nurses, foreign nationals, as a direct result of Brexit.
