Over 70's to stay in for 3 months!

[Speleotron]

If you get injured digging then you take up a hospital bed and risk the health of the rescue team. That's the problem.

 

[royfellows]

So, suppose that an 'over 70' decides to fuel his or her car and use 'pay at pump' with a card. Drives to the fells or high peak, and goes walking on their own. Then back home

Surely if people lock themselves away in the house for weeks at a time without fresh air or exercise they will be hitting the Health Service for other reasons?

 

[paul]

A thought: would travelling to and from the dig site constitute "unnecessary travel"?

 

[royfellows]

A thought: would travelling to and from the dig site constitute "unnecessary travel"?

I would say yes. But to what consequence in itself?

 

[Stu]

So, suppose that an 'over 70' decides to fuel his or her car and use 'pay at pump' with a card. Drives to the fells or high peak, and goes walking on their own. Then back home

Surely if people lock themselves away in the house for weeks at a time without fresh air or exercise they will be hitting the Health Service for other reasons?

Are you somehow magically holding the nozzle without recourse to your hands? Gloves perhaps? Better make sure you take your own. Oh, and a mask as well, because that bloke next to you has just sneezed. What do you mean you put your keys and fuel cap on the top of the pump?

And with that, I wish you well Roy. Out.

 

[royfellows]

It gets worse than that.
I import electronic components from China!

 

[Alex]

I do worry with all the lock down there will be an obesity epidemic as well! (unless food supplies run out of course).

 

[royfellows]

I do worry with all the lock down there will be an obesity epidemic as well! (unless food supplies run out of course).

I think that's mainly an issue with younger people.

 

[Ed]

Nah - let the over 70s go out

25% of working men weren't supposed to reach pension age.

More of the old codgers we can shuffle off - better your (ie my) rubbish pension gets. They've had a good innings of pay and rewards the kids of today will never know.

(a more or less verbatim quote from my 80 year old father)

 

[paul]

From the European Spleological Federation:

To all national caving organisations, delegates and cavers -
? toutes les organisations sp?l?ologiques nationales, d?l?gu?s et sp?l?ologues

English version

Please share this message to the clubs and cavers.

Within just a short time daily life in most countries of the world has radically changed as a result of the outbreak of the Coronavirus COVID-19. Caf?s, shops and schools are closed, flights, holidays and activities of all sorts including events are cancelled or prohibited and some borders are closed for traffic. Close contacts with people must be significantly reduced or avoided and, in some countries, communities are placed in quarantine. All this to crack down on the spread of the coronavirus and in order to maintain the quality of our healthcare. These measures from various countries have an impact on the practise of caving/speleology in any form, no matter the size of caving parties.

Speleological Federations of various countries such as Austria, Belgium, France, Italy and Spain urge their members not to undertake any form of caving activities, including climbing, canyoning or diving and to stay at home. Not only to avoid contacts between people, but also to reduce the likelihood rescues, which will be an additional burden on already overloaded public and health services. Moreover, in various countries sport and recreational activities are prohibited by law for the weeks to come.

The Bureau of the European Speleological Federation FSE therefore strongly recommends cavers to reconsider their caving activities and events and keep an eye on the media because the situation changes every day. What is possible today will be prohibited tomorrow. Please respect the measures taken by every individual country.

The FSE Bureau hopes all cavers and caving organisations will have the fortitude to hold out during this difficult period to come and we hope to see you all safe and sound after this crisis. Make responsible judgments and act with common sense. This is not only for yourself but especially for the people around you.

Best wishes,
FSE Bureau members

 

[Badlad]

Ah, the European question.  Didn't we leave the EU so we wouldn't have to follow what they said...er 

 

[maxb727]

We left the EU but not Europe......the message above is from the FSE, not the EU.

Does BCA have anything to say apart from their message about award holders?

This is all so unprecedented that I?m not surprised messages are coming out in dribs and drabs.


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[droid]

I hope all the kids wittering on about Roy and OR are following self isolation and social distancing strictures TO THE EFFIN LETTER.

If not, get a life.

 

[Speleotron]

There's a difference between following it to the letter (which I am) and going digging. And we're all kind of in this together we need to keep hospital beds free etc. Could be your elderly family member who needs one.

 

[royfellows]

The thread subject relates to over 70s. I do take exception to anything like this which I see as a generalisation based on a pre-conception.

I do actually have people standing in front of me referencing my martial arts interests and asking what a bloke in his 70s can do

I take great credit from being at a level where I can deal without actually hurting someone, well except for once.

 

[Speleotron]

Hi Roy I don't think people shouldnt dig because they are over 70 I just think we should all change our habits to reduce the risk of needing a hospital bed. I've binned off all my planned trips. Nothing personal and I've pretty much said all my thoughts now. I normally have a rule that I never argue online as its pointless!

 

[Speleotron]

No idea why it cloned my last post

 

[droid]

It's a virus  :

 

[Speleotron]

It's a virus  :

Edit: just got your joke sorry!

 

[royfellows]

Hi Roy I don't think people shouldnt dig because they are over 70 I just think we should all change our habits to reduce the risk of needing a hospital bed. I've binned off all my planned trips. Nothing personal and I've pretty much said all my thoughts now. I normally have a rule that I never argue online as its pointless!

Your OK with me, whoever you are.
I like your "all" bit, kind'a evens things out.