r_walklate@hotmail.com
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Can anybody give me some idea as to how wet it has to be before it becomes more than a fun trip?!!! I have been down a few times but not when there has been a forecast with rain in it. Cheers
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danthecavingman
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To be honest, up 'til it gets stupid, the wetter it is the more fun it can be. It's possible to rig dry all the way to the bottom (you can rig Idiot's leap as a pitch or traverse over it with care). I would say if the entrance is so wet you can't get in (or more likely out) then it's too wet. You'd be suprised the conditions you can actually get in though. It's impressive. Don't forget the dry entrance is an option if you're uber-thin as well.
Dan.
Disclaimer - P8 is a quite serious and sporting trip under wet conditions, do not underestimate it or go down whilst it's wet and rain is falling or more is forecast. Use common sense and have fun.
Dan.
Disclaimer - P8 is a quite serious and sporting trip under wet conditions, do not underestimate it or go down whilst it's wet and rain is falling or more is forecast. Use common sense and have fun.
r_walklate@hotmail.com
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Quality bit about the disclaimer!!!! I really respect you both have opinions. I'm happy to cave whatever the weather but don't won't to be responsible for an un necessary rescue. Cheers
JR1973
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The entrance can become impassible in flood conditions. I actually went late one evening about three weeks ago when it was snowing.
I have done P8 many times, various routes. I actually looked at the entrance and made the decision not to bother, there was more water going down than I'd ever seen, yes at the stage it was at the pitch was still passable, however had there been much more water, say from snow melt, things would have been very difficult.
P8 shouldn't kill you in a flood, if you know where to go, however the first pitch, true second pitch can all become impassable in flood.
The first pitch can be rigged as a travers round the left wall as you look at it, or you can climb up just before the pitch and rig it, avoiding most of the water.
If it's wet consider avoiding the true second pitch, climb up and there's the alternative second pitch, involves a travers over a couple of deep holes, recommend putting a travers line on.
There used to be a fixed ladder on the alternative second, this was removed about 10 years ago, however it's bolted.
I'd say check what the weathers Been doing for a few days before, if it feels wrong leave it for another day.
If you check the peak rigging guide it shows all the dry alternatives in Jackpot.
Enjoy, might be down there on Wednesday if it's safe.
Jon
I have done P8 many times, various routes. I actually looked at the entrance and made the decision not to bother, there was more water going down than I'd ever seen, yes at the stage it was at the pitch was still passable, however had there been much more water, say from snow melt, things would have been very difficult.
P8 shouldn't kill you in a flood, if you know where to go, however the first pitch, true second pitch can all become impassable in flood.
The first pitch can be rigged as a travers round the left wall as you look at it, or you can climb up just before the pitch and rig it, avoiding most of the water.
If it's wet consider avoiding the true second pitch, climb up and there's the alternative second pitch, involves a travers over a couple of deep holes, recommend putting a travers line on.
There used to be a fixed ladder on the alternative second, this was removed about 10 years ago, however it's bolted.
I'd say check what the weathers Been doing for a few days before, if it feels wrong leave it for another day.
If you check the peak rigging guide it shows all the dry alternatives in Jackpot.
Enjoy, might be down there on Wednesday if it's safe.
Jon
r_walklate@hotmail.com
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Was up there yesterday and he'll there was some water around!!! Was thinking of p8 but didn't even bother looking, went down maskhill in the morning with the plan to do the wet later. Went down giants and it was at least knee deep all the way down. Considering I've been down there nearly 50 times, I was shocked at how much was in there and just shows the power and effect if flooding. Im familiar with everything that you mention regarding rigging so happy with that. Would imagine there still far amount of water going down it even today!!!! Cheers
r_walklate@hotmail.com
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Yeah that was us two guys with White helmets on!!!! It was grim to say the least better underground. How was the exchange?
Mrs Trellis
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Returning from carol singing in Hathersage yesterday I thought about this thread and whether anyone was down P8. The roads were like streamways never mind the vadose canyons. I hope it does some good clearing-out work in Gautries. Sandbags in Castleton tonight.
Mrs Trellis
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There was steam coming from the chicken rotisserie.
I parked round the back next to the stream and that was roaring.
I parked round the back next to the stream and that was roaring.
r_walklate@hotmail.com
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Found a window to go down p8 today and it was pretty wet down there, but a quality sporting trip!!! Even got the misses to come with me and she loved it!!! Even though she didnt like the idea of 'hanging on my harness' she pulled it off with top marks!!!
Mrs Trellis
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Jammy sod!
