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Steve Clark

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New member's first SRT trip. Short Drop, traverse into Gavel.
 

The Old Ruminator

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Thanks for the memories.

I am fairly sure now that I will never see The Frozen Deep again. Nor perhaps will anyone else. This is Skyfall in 2016. Chris Milne on the traverse and Peter Glanvill on the ladder. Note the scallops top left a sign that water flowed here eons ago. A dislodged boulder fell down this pitch and broke my arm. Skyfall was dug upwards through horrible boulders hence the name but it was also dug when the Bond film came out. Eventually a false floor blocked the way upwards but a hole was cut though it to find Trap Door Chamber. A roomy rift and well decorated. The choke continued ever upwards but the chamber was just too pretty to spoil it. Memories and photos remain.

 

mrodoc

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Your memory is fading Nick! that is WIS(h) You Were Here with me on the second ladder descending to the Frozen Deep. Skyfall was entered after the Chicken Licken choke had been cleared ('sky is falling')
 

mrodoc

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Glorious Devon. Formations in the entrance chamber of Baker's Pit.
 

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The Old Ruminator

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Your memory is fading Nick! that is WIS(h) You Were Here with me on the second ladder descending to the Frozen Deep. Skyfall was entered after the Chicken Licken choke had been cleared ('sky is falling')
I reckon you are right Mr O Doc. The sentiment remains the same though.
 

The Old Ruminator

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From tonights trip and a question. For the first time I used my Canon 35mm 700D with a 28mm- 105mm lens. Using two Skyrays for lighting the camera had trouble spot focussing and shunted a lot. Maybe the spot pattern is too wide and can be narrowed. With time I will actually read the handbook. Anyway how can I improve the focussing or should I go manual ? The 105mm pulled another shot in nice and tight but of course clarity is sacrificed. Back to the TG6 I reckon.

 

Steve Clark

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I use a canon 600D. You ideally want to be using back-button focus. (Find the setting in the manual) or flick the af/mf swrich on the lens after you have focused.

I light the object I want to focus on, check it’s actually focused and then leave the focus well alone whilst I sort the lighting. You can still move the camera a bit to the left or right providing you don’t move forward and backwards.

I’m not sure what settings you are using, but it’s all a bit of a balance if you’re shooting handheld with video lights rather than strobes/flashes. You’ll get a deeper depth of field (less sensitive to exact focus) at tighter apertures but then you need more light or longer shutter times to get the same exposure. Then you start getting blur from the camera movement which loses definition too.

If you can’t get it to work, you’ve got two options - flashguns (lots more light, instant exposure) or tripod (works with low light, needs stationary people, have to carry it)

To see some easy improvement, maybe try offsetting the lights from the camera so you can see the shadows of the ladders in the shot. This will give the shot more depth / 3D feel. Currently they appear to be close to the camera.
 

The Old Ruminator

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Geology,
Left Devonian slate beds the miners called " killas ". Right solid bedded Devonian limestone with porifera. Between " The heavy spar lode ". Baryite with fluvial copper. Hypogenic cavities in the limestone.

 
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