Please Help Make A Clean-Up List!

[Space Doubt Caver]

Other information I need about locations is:

Is the location named an SSSi or an ANOB

 

[Space Doubt Caver]

UKC, & Buddle Pit Cave & Mine Clean up Tracker By S.D.C.

 

[langcliffe]

Other information I need about locations is:

Is the location named an SSSi or an ANOB

I don't really understand this. A location may be either in an AONB or in a National Park or neither. If you think that the fact that a location is in an AONB is important, why not in a National Park?

 

[Space Doubt Caver]

I don't really understand this. A location may be either in an AONB or in a National Park or neither. If you think that the fact that a location is in an AONB is important, why not in a National Park?

good point i should add national park, it's just so it gives me a direction of who to contact when arranging clean ups, and where to drop off rubbish to be picked up and who picks up the rubbish,

 

[Space Doubt Caver]

Access information updated: UKC, & Buddle Pit Cave & Mine Clean up Tracker By S.D.C.

I removed the option for ANOB, because it makes no actual difference, only need to define if it's an SSSi

 

[Space Doubt Caver]

Caves of North Wales have been added & some mines of North Wales.
Caves of Derbyshire & mines of Derbyshire have been added.
Caves of Mendips have been added & mines of Mendips have also been added.

UKC, & Buddle Pit Cave & Mine Clean up Tracker By S.D.C.
when on the list to find your fav locations press "shift F" then enter the name, and press enter.

If you notice anything missing please let me know.
Thank You.
SDC

 

[mikem]

AONBs have been changed to National Landscapes now anyway - they still have officers responsible for conservation and enhancement, same as National Parks.

 

[Space Doubt Caver]

A new addition has been added to the list: ((UK Areas)).

This will help people figure out where the cave or mine is located in the UK, E.G. Derbyshire, Mendip, etc...

So you can now search the list by area using "CTRL+F"
You can also search for the caves or mine's name directly by using "CTRL+F"

Thank You.
SDC

 

[Space Doubt Caver]

To participate & add to the list or update the list,

Please fill out this form: The Great Clean-Up Competition 2025!

Thank you
SDC

 

[TLH]

I like this idea, but I'm not sure about the whole of the country being on one tracker. Without edit permissions, it is hard to filter using the CTRL+F find option, unless you're looking for individual places. Then, on my laptop screen at least, all of the columns don't fit onto the page.

To clarify, is this your own personal set list to tackle, or are you aiming to encourage others to take this on board and try help work through it - Big job if just your own?

Then begs the question as to what identifies as being eligible to be cleaned up? How old is graffiti in a mine before it is history. If in a cave, what about the Swildon road sign, or carbide graffiti from years gone by?

 

[Space Doubt Caver]

I like this idea, but I'm not sure about the whole of the country being on one tracker. Without edit permissions, it is hard to filter using the CTRL+F find option, unless you're looking for individual places. Then, on my laptop screen at least, all of the columns don't fit onto the page.

To clarify, is this your own personal set list to tackle, or are you aiming to encourage others to take this on board and try help work through it - Big job if just your own?

Then begs the question as to what identifies as being eligible to be cleaned up? How old is graffiti in a mine before it is history. If in a cave, what about the Swildon road sign, or carbide graffiti from years gone by?

I am aiming to encourage others to take this on board and try help work through it, I Intend to have it as a competition, it's not just about cleaning, a lot of places won't even need cleaning and it's just investigating and confirming its condition and ticking it off.

I would not ask people to do something I'm not prepared to do myself, Here is a video of one of the clean-up activities I had done recently:
Leave Only Footprints.

There will be prizes for each category but yet to confirm what the prizes will be.

Graffiti will mainly be classed as by how recent it looks, like does it match the workers signatures done in old spray-paint, you can generally tell the difference by the layer of dust over it from being there for so many years,
(so jane and john who sprayed there names in 2013, some 50-100 years after the mine closed yeah that's graffiti.)

In caves when you see the carbide names, there aren't many people going underground with carbide these days so i can't see that being an issue, and in some instances the carbide soot graffiti was made by the original finders of the cave, so this would not be counted in.

Anyone that want's to help or join me on this project, behind the scenes, with the spreadsheets, filling in information and updating locations are more than welcome, and can be given editing permissions.

Right now the list is 90% caves with some mines from (North Wales, & Derbyshire, & Mendip) but before 2025 I will be aiming to add every "Accessible" cave and mine in the UK listed, with help from people who wish to join me on this project, from north to south from east to west the whole UK.

How it will work is:

Start the competition in 2025.

When people visit a cave or a mine, they fill out a form with the required details, and they submit a photo of proof. Then, the location status gets updated when the form is submitted.

this form: The Great Clean-Up Competition 2025!

I plan to hold an awards ceremony at the end of the year for the following categories: The top 3 people, & The top 3 groups, The Top 3 Caving Clubs, that tick off the most locations, there will be trophies with prizes.

The trophies will have a metal plaque to inscribe the winning club's and individual's names, and every year they get passed to the next winner.

At the end of the year, I will count which club/group or individuals have ticked off or cleaned the most locations Your company with the link above right now can already track the progress.

The awards can be held online or in a physical location (Not yet decided, this decision should be made in agreement with the companies who sponsor the awards.

This will be held on the UK Caving for the caves & Buddle Pit for the mines, and emailed to every caving club secretary in England and Wales & Scotland before the competition begins.

Hope this explains it, if you'd like to join me and help with this project feel free to directly message me

Thank you
SDC

 

[Ian Ball]

Lots of participation for 9 trophies, our underground will never look nicer

 

[pwhole]

One thing to bear in mind here for Derbyshire is that the DCA already runs the Peak District SSSI Cave Conservation Monitoring Scheme, and already provide forms (and have a small competition) for the forms returned. Granted it's a reporting scheme than a specific clean-up scheme, but we do send in completed forms and reports to Natural England. It needn't be a clash, but it would be a shame if our reporting stopped.

 

[Space Doubt Caver]

One thing to bear in mind here for Derbyshire is that the DCA already runs the Peak District SSSI Cave Conservation Monitoring Scheme, and already provide forms (and have a small competition) for the forms returned. Granted it's a reporting scheme than a specific clean-up scheme, but we do send in completed forms and reports to Natural England. It needn't be a clash, but it would be a shame if our reporting stopped.

The DCA SSSi scheme is totally separate and I would encourage people to participate in it as it has it's own merits and uses, SSSi's take different methods in which the DCA monitor and take information, and the actions and precautions they take are also different because they are also recording scientific data which is important.

People can participate in both I would encourage them to do so, then you could win more stuff for being observational, and participating.

The list I am creating is more about the the condition of the caves and mines, for the purposes of cleaning, and in a lot of instances locations may not need cleaning, and just a nice trip in and let us know if it was clean to tick it off.

Clubs and individuals would be able to adopt locations, within their areas to check and to care for, or maybe it's a fav location that you visit frequently, as this is still the Descent Cave Adoption list but evolved, & brought upto date with more locations.

This list is not gathering scientific data, and I'd like to stress that what the DCA is doing for SSSI locations is very important and you should take part in that also.

 

[Vkocher]

Hey all,

Just wondering if all you peeps can help me, i want to make a list of caves and mines that need cleaning up where you find the following: "Litter, Rubbish & Graffiti"
Maybe the whole location needs a clean up, or just the entrance, any info or pics would be great, so can you help me make a list of locations that need some TLC?

Thank you in Advance
SDC

Hello. I am currently the Conservation Officer for the Derbyshire Caving Association. We work with other cavers to monitor all the SSSI's in Derbyshire. This includes cleaning/rubbish/graffitti. Have you checked our website for the Cave Conservation Monitoring Scheme? It is a great way to participate and report back any damage in caves. There is also a £50 prize draw for Starless River that runs unitl the end of the year for posting Cave Conservation Monitoring forms my way! I hope that helps

 

[Vkocher]

One thing to bear in mind here for Derbyshire is that the DCA already runs the Peak District SSSI Cave Conservation Monitoring Scheme, and already provide forms (and have a small competition) for the forms returned. Granted it's a reporting scheme than a specific clean-up scheme, but we do send in completed forms and reports to Natural England. It needn't be a clash, but it would be a shame if our reporting stopped.

Thanks for pointing this out. I am the Conservation Officer for DCA and we run the Cave Monitoring Forms. Please see the DCA website for details
Victoria

 

[Space Doubt Caver]

Hello. I am currently the Conservation Officer for the Derbyshire Caving Association. We work with other cavers to monitor all the SSSI's in Derbyshire. This includes cleaning/rubbish/graffitti. Have you checked our website for the Cave Conservation Monitoring Scheme? It is a great way to participate and report back any damage in caves. There is also a £50 prize draw for Starless River that runs unitl the end of the year for posting Cave Conservation Monitoring forms my way! I hope that helps

I am an active participant in the DCA's SSSi monitoring scheme and totally recommend it,
The list i am doing is the cave adoption list but more locations, so it's not tied to any specific area, but caving regions, any caves that are SSSi's that we get feedback on will be reported to the DCA or relevant body CNCC/CSCC Ect.. and the DCA is welcome to access the data we receive too.

I understand SSSi's are very different in methods used

I was discussing the DCA's scheme the other day, check it out: DCA SSSi scheme i will be encouraging people & clubs to participate in both.

 

[Space Doubt Caver]

The following cave locations have been added to the list:
- Yorkshire
- North Pennines
- Scotland
- The Quantocks
- The Bath Stone Mines
- North Wales
- Mendip
- Derbyshire
- Dorset (Portland & Purbeck)
- East Surrey
- Bristol

If you know of any locations/caving regions that should be added please direct message me on UK-Caving to let me know.

Locations that have not been added will be for the following reasons:
- Dangerous loose boulders
- Flood Prone
- Capability to flash flood without warning.
- No Access.
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Also some locations have not been added because I do not know of them yet, and if you'd like to see them on this list don't be shy DM me on here UK-Caving, and i will add them.

Also i am looking for possible cave registries for Cornwall,
Lake District, Mid Wales, South Wales, & Scotland, all help is greatly appreciated.

As of right now, the list has 1219 entries. 90% are caves, the other 10% are mines, I will be working on adding mines in the coming weeks.

Descent Magazine, UKC, & Buddle Pit Cave & Mine Adoption & Clean up Tracker By Descent Magazine & S.D.C.

Thank You
SDC

 

[Space Doubt Caver]

if your viewing on a phone download the Google Sheets app on your phone, to view the whole list

 

[Space Doubt Caver]

@Vkocher you will now find I have added the DCA's SSSi monitoring scheme, you will find all Derbyshire SSSi locations say the following:

(Participate in the Peak District SSSI Cave Conservation Monitoring Scheme) to win more prizes.
With the following link: DCA SSSi monitoring scheme

Kind Regards
SDC