Rigging Spanners

IanWalker

Active member
i often 'go leashless' these days and simply carry the spanner in a dangly bag.

but then i do like to live life on the edge...
 

TheGrave

New member
Cap'n Chris said:
Here's my dual ended M8 & M10 spanner; a gift from a Spanish caving friend.  :)

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I'd kill a friend for this, my friend  ;)

Any clue about make or model?
 

TheGrave

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TheGrave said:
I'd kill a friend for this, my friend  ;)

Any clue about make or model?

Scratch that and look at this!

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B001NYX44G/ref=ox_sc_act_title_2?smid=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE&psc=1

If only we could find an alternative that didn't cost a kidney for a piece of metal...
 

topcat

Active member
I use a stubby ratchet ring with the other end open ,
attached via snoopy loop on my arm.

The ratchet is superb, very fast and easy to use. If course it is susceptible to mud and grit but so far no issues.  I put it away for muddy crawls etc and maintain it.  The open end is there as a back up in the event of mid cave failure of the ratchet.  Which would probably just seize and operate as a non ratchet ring spanner so no big issue.

The short length helps prevent over tightening which is a major spit killer.
 

andrewmcleod

Well-known member
TheGrave said:
Scratch that and look at this!

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B001NYX44G/ref=ox_sc_act_title_2?smid=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE&psc=1

If only we could find an alternative that didn't cost a kidney for a piece of metal...

Problem with ring spanners is you can't always get them onto the thing...

I have a spanners with a flexi head ratchet ring on one end (non-reversing, just turn it round!) and a normal open-ended spanner on the other - one in M8, one in M10.

Like this:
https://www.zoro.co.uk/shop/hand-tools/ratchet-combination/professional-flex-head-ratchet-combination-spanners-metric/f/5260

but I think mine are Halford Professional off eBay.

I don't think I've ever used the M10 one and probably wouldn't need it on exped (because everything is standardized on M8) so having M8 and M10 on the same spanner is probably not that useful. What _would_ be nice would be an open-ended ratchet spanner for those many hangers where the ring doesn't fit...
 

topcat

Active member
SamT said:
Is this post some sort of retro 80s post?

No, but it is a clear indication that contrary to what some would have you believe, spits are still very much in use down our caves :)
 

TheGrave

New member
andrewmc said:
TheGrave said:
Scratch that and look at this!

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B001NYX44G/ref=ox_sc_act_title_2?smid=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE&psc=1

If only we could find an alternative that didn't cost a kidney for a piece of metal...

Problem with ring spanners is you can't always get them onto the thing...

I have a spanners with a flexi head ratchet ring on one end (non-reversing, just turn it round!) and a normal open-ended spanner on the other - one in M8, one in M10.

Like this:
https://www.zoro.co.uk/shop/hand-tools/ratchet-combination/professional-flex-head-ratchet-combination-spanners-metric/f/5260

but I think mine are Halford Professional off eBay.

I don't think I've ever used the M10 one and probably wouldn't need it on exped (because everything is standardized on M8) so having M8 and M10 on the same spanner is probably not that useful. What _would_ be nice would be an open-ended ratchet spanner for those many hangers where the ring doesn't fit...

What is the problem normally, rusty bolt head? Or perhaps "non-standard" nut size? Just spoke with a friend who purchases nuts and bolts frequently, said he got an M10 in 15mm:

https://www.engineeringtoolbox.com/metric-bolt-head-wrench-size-d_1458.html?fbclid=IwAR3VVL8sUYLQlDtAJwvzuzkWj6Iok9pr0D7ACdqSiUqyO9f0I8sZ5U9jcAM

DIN should be the norm for Europe as per my understanding so 17mm key is what we should have in the pocket, right?

Btw not a big fan of this flexi-head, I'd rather use something like this:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Reversible-13mm-Ratchet-Spanner-Wrench-5-Ratcheting-15-Offset/142948096583?hash=item21485eda47:g:vhkAAOSwPQ9bphr3:rk:30:pf:0

topcat said:
SamT said:
Is this post some sort of retro 80s post?

No, but it is a clear indication that contrary to what some would have you believe, spits are still very much in use down our caves :)

Sorry for resurrecting an old topic but I think quite some people are facing these questions when purchasing wrenches so hopefully it will be useful for the future generations :)

Whether it's a nut or a bolt you still need a tool to fasten/unfasten it, right :) ? Spits on M10 are quite rare but anchor bolts on M10 are most def present in Bulgaria, mainly from rescue training events.
 

AlexR

Active member
I don't trust myself with those long spanners, more risk of stripping a thread, taking a concrete screw top off, etc.. A small spanner also fits better under my elbow pad  :) Annoyingly stubbies are more expensive than their long counterparts, no idea why.

Pretty standard setup, snoopy loop around my upper arm, elastic to keep it. The elastic is a little too long, been meaning to change it for ages but never got round to it.
Personally I'd really want an open ended side, I like to make maillons spanner tight when rigging something for a while both for safety and to make it less likely someone will pinch them.
 

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andrewmcleod

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TheGrave said:
What is the problem normally, rusty bolt head? Or perhaps "non-standard" nut size?

On a twist (right angled) hanger, there is physically not enough space between the nut and the hanger to get the ring on (at least on Raumer M8 twist hangers). It might be because I have a ratcheting one; a non-ratcheting one might fit.

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DIN should be the norm for Europe as per my understanding so 17mm key is what we should have in the pocket, right?
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Yes? (at least my never-used M10 bolts are)
 
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