cap n chris
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Swildon's Hole Sump 1 rope
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The Badger
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Chris you're keen to maintain natural barriers in a cave to thwart the 'badies', and as I've never understood why there is a rope on Sump 1 anyway I'm sure you'll agree when I say...remove it! Its about as nessesary as having a fixed ladder on the twenty.
cap n chris
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... There's a fixed ladder on the Twenty??!!!!
When did this happen? :chair:
:idea: : :thumbsdown: :hug: :read:
When did this happen? :chair:
:idea: : :thumbsdown: :hug: :read: 
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The Badger
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Stupot said:
I guess I'll have to free climb it, as usual.
cap n chris
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Surely pink and fluffy cavers just drink all the water and walk through?.....
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The Badger
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the trick is to stay high - and dry
tony from suffolk
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cap 'n chris said:
Forgive my obvious ignorance but wouldn't nylon be better than hemp? I've got 100 Ft. of no4 nylon hawserlaid which I found chucked away in the quarry on the way to Aggie (next to a cave beginning with "E"?). We used to use it for abseiling down Lamb Leer in the early seventies. So It's quite old but it's lasted well which shows that it's obviously of good quality.
OK, maybe not...
cap n chris
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Does nylon rot?
Does it break relatively easily?
If both answers are "yes" then it's going to be suitable for use as a hand line through sump 1.
Does it break relatively easily?
If both answers are "yes" then it's going to be suitable for use as a hand line through sump 1.
cap n chris
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No. It should be "Yes". i.e. hawserlaid rots away leaving no litter in the cave and it snaps relatively easily so when, not if, someone gets tangled up in it again (this has already happened once result in a near fatality) they can force/break their way out of the tangle.
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The Badger
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I concur.
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The Masked Hobit
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The Badger said:
I agree. I realise that the rope might serve as a mental crutch for a novice but apart from thats its totally unnecessary. As with those that prefer not to free climb the twenty instead choosing to rig with a ladder and lifeline, those with a novice party going beyond sump 1 may choose to take their own line.
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The Badger
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The Masked Hobit said:
Seems a fair point...seconded!
cap n chris
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Well, I see no objection to it no longer being there either.... however!
If it isn't there how long do you think it will take before someone puts one in?
Given that Swildon's Hole is looked after by WCC, will someone from WCC remove the rope or do you think "persons unknown" will do it?
I'm quite happy with the idea of taking my own short piece of rope for the occasional times when someone would appreciate it to make it easier (physically or psychologically) to progress through the sump.
It'll give people a topic of conversation at the pub. Mind you, will it appear to be done as an act of evil now that the Freshers have begun their annual lemming-like exodus?....
If it isn't there how long do you think it will take before someone puts one in?
Given that Swildon's Hole is looked after by WCC, will someone from WCC remove the rope or do you think "persons unknown" will do it?
I'm quite happy with the idea of taking my own short piece of rope for the occasional times when someone would appreciate it to make it easier (physically or psychologically) to progress through the sump.
It'll give people a topic of conversation at the pub. Mind you, will it appear to be done as an act of evil now that the Freshers have begun their annual lemming-like exodus?....
cap n chris
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Stupot said:
Mwahahahaha!