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emgee
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cap 'n chris said:
Presumably the cave owner will be legally liable for allowing smoking on his premises.
Swildons STONERS!!!!
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Presumably the cave owner will be legally liable for allowing smoking on his premises.
whitelackington
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Will smoking really not be legal in caves after July? :blink:
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emgee
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whitelackington said:
Will smoking really not be legal in caves after July? :blink:
That's an extremely interesting question. Followed closely by does standard BCA insurance cover cave owners for liability if someone smokes in their cave,
Just for the record I was diagnosed as allergic to tobacco smoke more then forty years ago.
ditzy 24//7
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ipersonally think that its wrong to do drugs in the first place but to do then in a cave were they are poluting the air in a cave is just wrong. a cave is the wrong place to do drugs in the first place. i think that smoking in a cave is wrong so to be smoking outher things is even worse. if there gonna do things like that at least do it outside the cve and not leave there rubbish behing.
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cap n chris
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Since smoking underground is contrary to the Ethical Caving Code and falls fouls of the 1981 W&CPA (re Bats) but is not illegal per se I guess it's unresolvable. What I was highlighting was the bold statement that people nearby Emgee did not go around being physically aggressive towards smokers - I reckon they will be once the ban comes into effect on 1st July and non-smokers are finally able to use the force of law to demand that smokers put up or shut up.
cap n chris
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ditzy 24//7 said:
Supported by the fact that doing drugs is illegal.
ditzy 24//7
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yes aswell as that. i think that to be honest its a waste of a life to even start drugs.
whitelackington
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Not if you get them off the quack it's not :blink:cap 'n chris said:
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emgee
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cap 'n chris said:
Rather depends on which ones you choose to do. Alcohol still seems to be legal.
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emgee
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cap 'n chris said:
Er... Are you seriously suggesting that you expect serious violence as a result of the ban on smoking?
Oh and it's emgee not Emgee
ditzy 24//7
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ok then lets put it into catagories if its a class a or b drug that definatly illegal but if its a class c drug still illegal i think but not as suverley punnished
ditzy 24//7
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emgee said:
well maybe violence would be a result of the withdrawal process?
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wormster
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Makes no odds to me,
the July ban, I've been going outside for a fag for over 10 years,
so it'll be no different when the public places ban comes into force.
The only upside I can see is that the construction industry will have a short term boom as pub's restaurants etc all build canopies for us to huddle under.
anyway if we're going to debate the ins and outs of smoking in public places lets do it on antother topic and not hijack this one (personaly i've put my 10p's worth in the hat and am not going to comment anymore on this thread.)
the July ban, I've been going outside for a fag for over 10 years,
so it'll be no different when the public places ban comes into force.
The only upside I can see is that the construction industry will have a short term boom as pub's restaurants etc all build canopies for us to huddle under.
anyway if we're going to debate the ins and outs of smoking in public places lets do it on antother topic and not hijack this one (personaly i've put my 10p's worth in the hat and am not going to comment anymore on this thread.)
cap n chris
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emgee said:
1) Yup. It's a no-brainer.
2) I stand corrected (as usual!).
cap n chris
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whitelackington said:
FFS. If (as I had thought of doing, but realised it would result in a long-winded essay style answer to an otherwise easy and quick response) I had qualified the (flippin' obvious) statement by writing "supported by the fact that doing illegal drugs is illegal" instead of writing "supported by the fact that doing drugs is illegal" when, in the context of this thread, it was already obvious to any breathing amoeba what was meant by the second of the two versions, then I wouldn't need to be typing this response, would I? Would people prefer that blatently obvious topics are qualified with unnecessary blatent explanations in future? i.e. if we were doing a thread on cats would it be necessary to qualify it by writing "domesticated cats of the standard small-size variety often found in homes" just in case someone wrote "aha, do you mean tigers and lions as well?".
Peter Burgess
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No, but they might mean feral cats, you know, those ones that are the descendants of cats that used to be domestic but aren't any more. I could go on, but if I did so it would only be to make a point, over-egg the pudding, and be even more irritating than I normally am.....
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cap n chris
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Duck, quail or hen?
Peter Burgess
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cap 'n chris said:
Jam Roly Poly.
tony from suffolk
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I would have thought this thread was fowl enough!
In the days when I, and practically everyone else if I recall, smoked I confess to really looking forward to a fag break at certain key places in a cave. Eastwater was the little chamber at the top of the bedding after the Lower Traverse. Swildon's was Barnes' Loop (sacrelege I hear you shout!), the bottom of the ramp up to Vicarage Passage in 2, far end of Blue Pencil (obviously!) and the other side of the Black Hole. Never got to puff at the latter location 'cos God didn't like it. Well, he always reduced my matches to a sodden mess by the time we got there!
In the days when I, and practically everyone else if I recall, smoked I confess to really looking forward to a fag break at certain key places in a cave. Eastwater was the little chamber at the top of the bedding after the Lower Traverse. Swildon's was Barnes' Loop (sacrelege I hear you shout!), the bottom of the ramp up to Vicarage Passage in 2, far end of Blue Pencil (obviously!) and the other side of the Black Hole. Never got to puff at the latter location 'cos God didn't like it. Well, he always reduced my matches to a sodden mess by the time we got there!