WANTED copy of not the faint hearted by Mike Cooper
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georgenorth
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I think Mike tried to avoid trips which either required use of in-situ ropes, or pre-rigging.
Cupcake to LJ downstream sump and back would probably be the most in keeping.
langcliffe
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Has anybody been through the Long Drop duck recently? Last time I looked (last year) it seems to have been silted up.
andrewmcleod
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I think (having done far too few of the trips in the book) the key is that the trips have to be _good_ in some way i.e. not just an arbitrarily long hard trip between two entrances. Doing a load of rarely-visited caving might count of course (if it was worthwhile).
georgenorth
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I might start work on a ‘50 Harder Caving Trips in Masongill’ book.
Outside of the 3 Counties area, I guess Curtain Pot would be worthy of inclusion?
Outside of the 3 Counties area, I guess Curtain Pot would be worthy of inclusion?
georgenorth
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Fairy Holes to the new end also fully deserves to be in there - I guess it wasn’t included in the original due to the lack of access at the time? One of the best trips in the country…
danthecavingman
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I was going to ask on the Fairy Holes post elsewhere in the Forum - did it go much further than the exploration already reported there? Sounded like it was ongoing....
rm128
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Indeed. Any compilation of selected trips is always going to be subjective by its very nature. I seem to recall that Mike Cooper makes this point himself in his opening comments.
Perhaps I should explain that my suggestion of Cupcake to Long Drop wasn’t completely random. For me it would seem fitting to include a trip that crosses the highly significant 3 counties connection between Lost Johns and Notts II, particularly as this connection post-dated the original Black Book publication. George’s suggestion of an in and out from Cupcake to the LJ downstream sump would fit this bill. However, for me, an in and out is never quite as satisfactory as a through trip... although George’s suggestion would be harder than mine. I think my suggestion would have quite a sense of journey.
@langcliffe - I’m afraid I have no recent info on the state of the Long Drop duck.
georgenorth
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Yep, still ongoing - definitely not my place to say any more though!
I emailed Mike about a reprint and got a characteristically thorough reply. He committed to contact the original printers and investigate costs for a reprint. So work is in hand.
Would the people suggesting new trips like to write the descriptions? Perhaps for hosting on the CNCC website?
georgenorth
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I’d be happy to write descriptions for the Masongill stuff. My first choice would be for the book to be updated rather than descriptions published through the CNCC though - obviously that’s entirely up to Mike though!
There used to be a list of suggestions for extra trips on the NFTFH website. I think that disappeared a few years ago though.
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