• Ghar Parau dinner invitation

    Have you or your club benefitted from Ghar Parau funding for an expedition?

    To mark the occasion of the 50th anniversary of its creation, a meal is to be held at the Anchor Inn in Tideswell, Derbyshire on Saturday 11th February, 2023. As well as a meal there will be speakers on behalf of the original Ghar Parau explorers and the current GPF committee.

    Details here

YDNP Extention

Sue White

New member
Yorkshire Dales encroaching into Lancashire?! Colonialism I tell you! This will not stand!

Seriously though, strong move. Well done Trussie  :kiss2:
 

ChrisJC

Well-known member
Not sure I see the need for it myself. Just more bureaucracy. I've never noticed a stark change in landscape when driving from Ingleton to Kendal.

Chris.
 

grahams

Active member
ChrisJC said:
Not sure I see the need for it myself. Just more bureaucracy. I've never noticed a stark change in landscape when driving from Ingleton to Kendal.

Chris.

National Parks give added protection against unwanted developments. The erection of the windfarm for example, above the M6 adjacent to the Howgills is now much less likely. It's a pity that the LDNP wasn't extended to take in the unique limestone areas of the South Lakes peninsulars as a lot of unnecessary vandalism is currently taking place including a proposal to build a disgusting solar farm near Cartmell.
 

Simon Wilson

New member
ChrisJC said:
Not sure I see the need for it myself. Just more bureaucracy. I've never noticed a stark change in landscape when driving from Ingleton to Kendal.

Chris.

If you were driving from Ingleton to Kendal along the A65 you would stay entirely out of both National Parks both before and after the enlargement.
 

JAA

Active member
The Red Rose had best hurry up and finish any improvements to Bull Pot Farm then,
before the massive web of bureaucracy takes hold!!
 

ChrisJC

Well-known member
grahams said:
ChrisJC said:
Not sure I see the need for it myself. Just more bureaucracy. I've never noticed a stark change in landscape when driving from Ingleton to Kendal.

Chris.

National Parks give added protection against unwanted developments. The erection of the windfarm for example, above the M6 adjacent to the Howgills is now much less likely. It's a pity that the LDNP wasn't extended to take in the unique limestone areas of the South Lakes peninsulars as a lot of unnecessary vandalism is currently taking place including a proposal to build a disgusting solar farm near Cartmell.

Unwanted is a key word here. By whom?

Presumably all the things that make the National Park what it is today, e.g. drystone walls (Inclosure Acts), clearing of forests to make sheep walks, mining activity, would not have been permitted in their day had the NP been in existence then.

I just think it's pointless as it is based on the presumption that we have somehow achieved perfection, and no changes are now possible.

I for one am glad I don't live and work in one.

Chris.


 

droid

Active member
I lived in one for the first part of my life.

other than using natural stone for building, and not erecting massive wiggly tin barns, it had little effect on everyday life. Your historical analysis is plain wrong.

Methinks you have little knowledge about what you talk about, Chris.
 

Simon Wilson

New member
ChrisJC said:
grahams said:
ChrisJC said:
Not sure I see the need for it myself. Just more bureaucracy. I've never noticed a stark change in landscape when driving from Ingleton to Kendal.

Chris.

National Parks give added protection against unwanted developments. The erection of the windfarm for example, above the M6 adjacent to the Howgills is now much less likely. It's a pity that the LDNP wasn't extended to take in the unique limestone areas of the South Lakes peninsulars as a lot of unnecessary vandalism is currently taking place including a proposal to build a disgusting solar farm near Cartmell.

Unwanted is a key word here. By whom?

The vast majority obviously. The Lake District is one of the oldest protected landscapes in the World and a world famous national asset because of it.

Presumably all the things that make the National Park what it is today, e.g. ... clearing of forests to make sheep walks, ... would not have been permitted in their day had the NP been in existence then.

One of the things that I would very much like to see happen is the complete removal of sheep from some areas and forest restoration. The Howgills are overgrazed to the point of being a virtual desert.

I for one am glad I don't live and work in one.

Chris.

I'm glad you don't too.
 
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