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Offline Alex

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Re: staying upright whilst descending?
« Reply #50 on: March 04, 2012, 07:28:27 pm »
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Problem is Amy, we only use Frog or a derivative here. Most of our caves have short(ish) pitches and are generally rigged Alpine style (rebelays everywhere) rather than the US style of just chuck the rope over the lip. We don't do "passing lipps" as the rope is never hanging over a lip. It is an anatheme here to allow the rope to ever touch the rock.

Not entirely true, we do pass lips sometimes here sometimes but if that is the case such as Rowton (window) and cow pot for example there is normally a rebelay immidiately after. Oh cant forget Croaser, now that is a lip pass no re-belay either (second pitch).
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Re: staying upright whilst descending?
« Reply #51 on: March 04, 2012, 07:38:54 pm »
I understand that there rigging is different, but I still say it's what you are used to and practice...perhaps the difference for me is I'm on a single bungee ropewalker (this is not a mitchell or texas...) so *i personally* do no find it harder than a frog for various rope manovours, in fact, I *personally* find it easier. Even there are frog-to-mitchell which surely would work better for rebelays if you want to stay basically frog? Everyone is different, being open and able to play with various systems, even creating your own mosh of one, can be important and the difference between comfortable and horribly uncomfortable on rope.

And yet, I still prefer frog with short multi-drops, and tight entrance pits that can make a chest roller hard to deal with. Nice thing about my single bungie ropewalker is it converts right back for those caves.

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Re: staying upright whilst descending?
« Reply #52 on: March 04, 2012, 07:39:53 pm »
Alex, there are always exceptions but the generalisation hold true.

Would you bother with a rope walk system to climb the second pitch at Croesor? Most people only go down anyway...
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Re: staying upright whilst descending?
« Reply #53 on: October 26, 2019, 10:09:15 pm »
An old thread but interesting as this problem has affected me couple of times... reasons for low attachment point (faster pursuing, better side reach..) seem to be outweighed by 1) risk of going upside down on a slip or fall... 2) need for chest  clip harness to prevent such... 3) need to use maybe tired hands to maintain upright position... Compared to say a std construction harness fall must be safely arrested in upright position . So it seems to me that a good test is to hang off the harness hands free if you aren't upright the centre of gravity /attachment point is too low...??