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Dave Elliot
« on: June 12, 2019, 04:08:36 pm »
I have heard from two different sources that Dave Elliot passed away at the weekend.  Can anyone confirm this?

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Re: Dave Elliot
« Reply #1 on: June 12, 2019, 05:33:57 pm »
Yes that information is correct.

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Re: Dave Elliot
« Reply #2 on: June 12, 2019, 06:48:00 pm »
RIP  :weep:
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Re: Dave Elliot
« Reply #3 on: June 12, 2019, 10:53:03 pm »
Oh no. What a legend...

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Re: Dave Elliot
« Reply #4 on: June 12, 2019, 11:05:56 pm »
Rest in Peace Dave. 

Funnily enough it is because of Dave that I am named Badlad on this forum.  Back in the early eighties I went on a Whernside Manor trip to the Pyrenees with Dave as a leader.  He nicknamed a group of us from the Airedale 'the Badlads' as a bit of fun.  Shortly after one of the lads had some stickers made of the 'Badlads' and years later one of those stickers reappeared just as I was registering on the forum. Voila

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Re: Dave Elliot
« Reply #5 on: June 12, 2019, 11:49:09 pm »

Must be one the the most influential cavers of his generation. Many, myself among them,  must have learnt the basics of SRT from his (some would say controversial) books.
His books on the Castleton caves are still a classic & well worth a look!
What a loss.

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Re: Dave Elliot
« Reply #6 on: June 13, 2019, 12:27:47 am »
An original for sure. I am only one of many who was influenced by Dave. I am really saddened by this news.

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Re: Dave Elliot
« Reply #7 on: June 13, 2019, 08:36:51 am »
Back in the '70's me and Dave did our C.L.C. assessment together, a really nice chap, R.I.P. Dave.
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Re: Dave Elliot
« Reply #8 on: June 13, 2019, 09:20:27 am »
Sad news indeed, spent quite a bit of time with him when he was writing his Caves of Castleton Books.

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Re: Dave Elliot
« Reply #9 on: June 13, 2019, 10:17:06 am »
Ah no. Such a nice chap. Did parts of my CIC assessment with him and he was very relaxed and a real pleasure to work with. Rest in peace Dave.

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Re: Dave Elliot
« Reply #10 on: June 13, 2019, 11:01:59 am »
Sad news just keeps on rolling in.  His SRT book is one of my favourites, for the moody black and white photography mostly.

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Re: Dave Elliot
« Reply #11 on: June 13, 2019, 05:42:19 pm »
More rotten news; I always got on well with Dave; he was a genuinely helpful person.

In terms of caving techniques, he was a visionary, well ahead of his time (which partly explains the "controversy" alluded to above).

I'll certainly miss him.

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Re: Dave Elliot
« Reply #12 on: June 13, 2019, 06:55:53 pm »
Dave Elliot was years ahead of his time with his superb red-bolt routes and the text and photos accompanying the infamous book were inspirational to me. As a teenager I taught myself SRT, mostly using Dave's book and was an avid reader of his phenomenal Equipment Column in Caves & Caving. As a young caver he was undoubtedly my caving hero and the first time I met him my legs turned to jelly - it was like meeting royalty. RIP - an inspiration and a legend!

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Re: Dave Elliot
« Reply #13 on: June 13, 2019, 07:37:31 pm »
yes he was ahead of his time....as a youth went on several Whernside Manor courses and got to know him quite well then used to catch up with him on caving events. Sad news. RIP Dave

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Re: Dave Elliot
« Reply #14 on: June 13, 2019, 08:10:12 pm »
Dave foresaw the need for a standardised system for bolt anchors.

. . . which is exactly what we have now. Definitely a visionary.

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Re: Dave Elliot
« Reply #15 on: June 13, 2019, 10:37:25 pm »
Dave certainly standardised SRT caving techniques and in so doing made caving a lot safer.....
The few times I met up with Dave he was always interested in whatever project I was working on, and for someone of Dave's prestigious status to to say " well done" was approval indeed..... I will always remember our conversations... I was looking forward to more, but sadly that will not be...  But we can grateful for Dave's company while we had it.....

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Re: Dave Elliot
« Reply #16 on: June 14, 2019, 08:18:00 am »
Sad news. R.I.P.

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Re: Dave Elliot
« Reply #17 on: June 15, 2019, 08:14:29 pm »
Oh No - not another one.

Dave was: as people have already said, "A visionary" in terms of those early red bolts and SRT guide - done around the time when I was badly placing spits in "exploration mode" not thinking of the longer term consequences.

These Whernside Manor day's of Caving now seem a lifetime way.

RIP Dave.
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Re: Dave Elliot
« Reply #18 on: June 15, 2019, 10:17:32 pm »
His tee shirt with the slogan "ladders are for lofts" still makes me chuckle.
A generous man, he lent us some information on the caves of Mallorca when we went there many years back. He was planning on writing a guide book to the island, and had compiled a lot of info. All he asked in return was that we let him know of any mistakes that we found.
A good man. RIP.
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Re: Dave Elliot
« Reply #19 on: June 16, 2019, 07:12:26 am »
Sad to hear that Dave has passed away.

He was such a solid character - very helpful and always willing to discuss anything to do with caving, but, with an abrasive sense of humour, he would delight in winding you up, just when you weren't expecting it, even though you really were.

I remember the "Manor" years well, in particular a rigging course where he took a small group of us to finish off his bolts in the Goblin Shaft of Sell Gill - red rings, of course!

He'll be missed by many of us.
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Re: Dave Elliot
« Reply #20 on: June 16, 2019, 08:13:55 am »
This is sad news. Spent many happy hours underground with Dave. He had genuine encouragement for people and was good fun to be around. 
I carried bottles down Rowten a few times for him and every time we would take a different route as he experimented with rigging and how that could reduce some of the intrinsic risks. Also it was part of the movement away from the, "It's Bluewater, just throw it down the pitch" approach to SRT.
Dave told me he started caving by crawling into holes with his schoolmates using bike lamps. Was quite disdainful of people who said that you could only become a caver by joining a club or doing a course. Dave was someone who was prepared to be forthright, being both blunt and sharp at the same time! He will be missed.

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Re: Dave Elliot
« Reply #21 on: June 17, 2019, 10:32:06 pm »
If Dave needs a lasting tribute it is his contribution to "Fear of Falling" on Channel 4 -

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Re: Dave Elliot
« Reply #22 on: July 01, 2019, 10:31:45 am »
I have been asked if any one knows when he was born and the date of his death?

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Re: Dave Elliot
« Reply #23 on: July 02, 2019, 09:18:09 pm »
Sad news indeed. I also met Dave at 'Whernside Manor', when I attended one of the excellent courses on offer, way back in the 1980's! One day we stopped off at his house in Langcliffe. An old, attractive/characterful cottage, typical of the Yorkshire Dales on the outside. I got quite a surprise, when I went inside, as it was minimalist & modern. So, ahead of his time, not just in caving! I also own a number of his excellent publications. Firstly, SRT Rigging Guide - Yorkshire Dales: Dave Elliot & Dick Lawson (1987). Secondly, the full set (1-5) of the Caves of Northern Derbyshire (1975).

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Re: Dave Elliot
« Reply #24 on: August 30, 2019, 04:14:57 pm »
His tee shirt with the slogan "ladders are for lofts" still makes me chuckle.
A generous man, he lent us some information on the caves of Mallorca when we went there many years back. He was planning on writing a guide book to the island, and had compiled a lot of info. All he asked in return was that we let him know of any mistakes that we found.
A good man. RIP.

I particularly liked his T shirt slogan " I couldn't spell speleologist, now I are one"

I spent many a happy hour caving with Dave in the late seventies early eighties. RIP old mate