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« Reply #25 on: February 18, 2020, 09:07:59 pm »
Don Morrisons in Sheffield, where I bought my first Texolex helmet and Magic Mountain in Hope where I bought my first Petzl ascenders.

Though they were primarily climbing shops, they both held quite a range of caving gear, e.g.helmets, Premier carbide lamps and rubber boots. In the late 70's early 80's dedicated caving harnesses hadn't been invented.

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Blacks in Hanley were similar. I remember being up there in the 60's & pestering my dad to take me to look in the window at the carbide lamps, ropes, ladders, helmets etc.
I went back years later & was told they weren't allowed to sell dangerous sports kit anymore - go round to Jo Royles, they sold it!

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« Reply #26 on: February 18, 2020, 09:30:38 pm »
There was an outfit on Shirley High Street in Southampton that specialised in Rope Access kit, use dto advertise in Descent.  I think they were called COMSAC?  I think they were still going well into the 90s.

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« Reply #27 on: February 18, 2020, 09:42:50 pm »
There used to be a climbing shop on Portland (I think it was called Rockies) that sold a small selection of 'caving kit'.  From memory they sold Ecrin Roc helmets with Speleotechnic headlites, belts, harnesses, perhaps the odd tackle sack, obviously krabs & rope.  Don't remember them stocking any oversuits / undersuits or knee pad though.  I suspect that was due to boiler suit / old clothes being the norm (and still is largely today as it's too hot in all that clobber).  Knee pads - well I don't remember anyone having those either, perhaps some used knee pads from B&Q.  I certainly remember discovering such luxuries when I started caving up North (Mendip).

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Re: Caving shops no more
« Reply #28 on: February 18, 2020, 10:13:57 pm »
So what's left?

Starless River, Inglesport, Cave Climb (Cheddar) - anywhere else?

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« Reply #29 on: February 18, 2020, 10:23:04 pm »
Magic Mountain in Hope was Joe Taskers shop if I remember rightly. Joe (and Pete Boardman) was lost on a Bonnington expedition to Everest in 1982 and led to the Boardman Tasker prize for literature which has spawned some fantastic outdoor books over the years.......
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« Reply #30 on: February 18, 2020, 10:25:23 pm »
So what's left?

Starless River, Inglesport, Cave Climb (Cheddar) - anywhere else?
Caveclimb shut down their unit at Christmas. So nearest to Mendip now is Up & Under in Cardiff.

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« Reply #31 on: February 18, 2020, 10:27:20 pm »
So what's left?

Starless River, Inglesport, Cave Climb (Cheddar) - anywhere else?


E Bay seems to be quite popular given the regularity that our club members seem to outbid each other for oversuits....
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« Reply #32 on: February 19, 2020, 12:30:22 am »
Magic Mountain in Hope was Joe Taskers shop if I remember rightly. Joe (and Pete Boardman) was lost on a Bonnington expedition to Everest in 1982 and led to the Boardman Tasker prize for literature which has spawned some fantastic outdoor books over the years.......

I bought the ascender from Joe himself.

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Re: Caving shops no more
« Reply #33 on: February 19, 2020, 09:23:03 am »
COMSAC, Rockies, Magic Mountain & Don Morrisons all get a mention in the "good climbing shops that closed" thread
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« Reply #34 on: February 19, 2020, 11:08:44 am »
Beast products shut as well - they made caving packs

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« Reply #35 on: February 19, 2020, 11:43:15 am »
Ben Lyon for a while had a caving shop based at Whernside Manor. It was the fore runner to Lyon Equipment but a retail caving shop. Importing Petzl kit and Bluewater rope amongst other things. There was Lyon Ladders before that.

The Three Peaks Cafe in Horton used to sell caving gear at one time. I certainly bought some kit from here.

Also Ellis Brigham in Liverpool sold some stuff in the late 70's and early 80's. Remember buying my first caving helmet from them.

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« Reply #36 on: February 19, 2020, 12:17:26 pm »
Just remembered, the YHA Shop in John Adam Street in Covent Garden, London used to sell Premier carbide Caplamps ("stinkies") eons ago (the 70's anyway).
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« Reply #37 on: February 19, 2020, 12:32:44 pm »
LC Products , Lightwood Road Buxton sold wet suit kits in the 70s. You got measured and she cut out a pattern for you and you bought the neoprene, glue and tape etc.  Originally I bought thin unlined neoprene but progressed to thinker lined neoprene which after you made your suit could be returned to her for stitching. 
My firs thin version did not even survive one trip down Simpsons. I tried to tape it up the next day by wrapping masking tape round the torn bits.

My fried manage to cut out one leg one way and three legs the other so he had one leg with half the neoprene inside out. Happy days!

Note - the photos is me after Simpsons. I certainly dont look like that anymore 

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« Reply #38 on: February 19, 2020, 12:46:12 pm »
Sort of going the other way, my old local in Hathersage turned into a Nevisports many years ago....
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« Reply #39 on: February 19, 2020, 02:16:11 pm »
LC Products , Lightwood Road Buxton sold wet suit kits in the 70s. You got measured and she cut out a pattern for you and you bought the neoprene, glue and tape etc.  Originally I bought thin unlined neoprene but progressed to thinker lined neoprene which after you made your suit could be returned to her for stitching. 
My firs thin version did not even survive one trip down Simpsons. I tried to tape it up the next day by wrapping masking tape round the torn bits.

My fried manage to cut out one leg one way and three legs the other so he had one leg with half the neoprene inside out. Happy days!

Note - the photos is me after Simpsons. I certainly dont look like that anymore

Yrammy, that is one supercool photo  8)

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Re: Caving shops no more
« Reply #40 on: February 19, 2020, 02:56:33 pm »
My old copy of Barrington and Stanton has some advertisements for businesses of long ago. Casswells of Midsomer Norton, The Bivouac of Matlock Bath, Ellis Brigham - I think we've had that one, and Clam Products of Liversedge.

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Re: Caving shops no more
« Reply #41 on: February 19, 2020, 03:25:53 pm »
The Bivouac was owned by Jim Ballard. His second wife, the mountaineer Alison Hargreaves, killed on K2 in 1995, met him when she became the shop Saturday girl when she was just 16. She went to live with him on her 18th birthday. Their son Tom was killed on Nanga Parbat a year ago.

A place with sad connotations. We used to stop there on OUCC trips to Derbyshire in the late seventies and early eighties. Alison and Jim started a gear manufacturing business, Faces, but it and the shop went bust in the recession of 1991 - 2.

At this rate, there will be nowhere left!

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Re: Caving shops no more
« Reply #42 on: February 19, 2020, 04:07:11 pm »
A glance through the "Speleologist" magazines of the 1960s will (from memory) reveal quite a few adverts relating to shops selling caving gear which aren't around any more.

Without looking back through the various posts above, has the Penyghent cafe shop been mentioned? That closed last year (I believe due to ill health in the family) but I think the long term aim is to re-open it, eventually.  I have happy memories as a child of buying carbide spares there and rummaging through the impressive collection of specialised caving publications and surveys which Peter Bayes always stocked.

David Rose makes an important point above - we all need to buy as much as possible from our few remaining caving shops, even if some stuff is available elsewhere. If we don't support them, they'd not be viable.

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« Reply #43 on: February 19, 2020, 06:31:45 pm »
Didn't the Penyghent cafe shut & reopen already last year?

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« Reply #44 on: February 19, 2020, 07:08:12 pm »
I don't remember it reopening it Mike. When I went past it recently it didn't look open. Could be wrong though, as I wasn't really paying attention to it. I'll look next time I'm in Horton.

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Re: Caving shops no more
« Reply #45 on: February 19, 2020, 08:34:13 pm »
LC Products , Lightwood Road Buxton sold wet suit kits in the 70s. You got measured and she cut out a pattern for you and you bought the neoprene, glue and tape etc.  Originally I bought thin unlined neoprene but progressed to thinker lined neoprene which after you made your suit could be returned to her for stitching. 
My firs thin version did not even survive one trip down Simpsons. I tried to tape it up the next day by wrapping masking tape round the torn bits.

My fried manage to cut out one leg one way and three legs the other so he had one leg with half the neoprene inside out. Happy days!

Note - the photos is me after Simpsons. I certainly dont look like that anymore

Wow, yrammy you are one hot chick  :o  Love the photo.

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Re: Caving shops no more
« Reply #46 on: February 19, 2020, 09:47:08 pm »
Suzi Quatro. Blimey - I'm printing that one out ;)

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Re: Caving shops no more
« Reply #47 on: February 19, 2020, 09:51:11 pm »
Back in the day I quite liked going to BAT Products and buying some of the various old books and journals he had on offer as well as other stuff.  Also, the grocers next door - Spencer's - did a nice ham, tomato, and mustard sandwich along with a can of full fat Coca Cola.  Nicer than the big plastic supermarket opposite.
When looking at things on eBay and Amazon I look at the seller and if a smaller business will buy from them for the sake of a few extra pence.

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« Reply #48 on: February 19, 2020, 11:41:12 pm »
I don't remember it reopening it Mike. When I went past it recently it didn't look open. Could be wrong though, as I wasn't really paying attention to it. I'll look next time I'm in Horton.
No idea if they're open at moment, but I think they were shut down for a while & then opened again last summer.

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« Reply #49 on: February 20, 2020, 08:34:44 am »
Badlad - was.... not now.

 

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