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Re: CNCC updated advice
« Reply #50 on: January 04, 2021, 02:21:18 am »
I'm in Wales where we are allowed unlimited local exercise, starting from home. It's supposed to be a stay at home situation, but on my 7 mile walk around the Foryd, I see plenty of people having a nice leisurely drive round looking at the sea, sometimes they are sitting in their car with a flask of coffee, or eating some takeaway chips. Others are a bit more high octane judging by the various Mac Donald's effluvia decorating the roadside. So my conclusion is that people are still taking the piss. And apart from the Mc Donald crap spreaders, most of these people think they are doing nothing wrong.

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« Reply #51 on: January 04, 2021, 02:35:16 am »
Bit more Welsh flavour here. We had original lockdown lasting about a month longer than England when the Chancellor's inappropriately named eat out to something or other initiative started. So for the first month or two it was river and Foryd walk. At some point we had a 10km or so drive for exercise which gave access to some local slate quarry walks. Then, maybe in July, we could drive everywhere, so I did loads of Ffestiniog quarry walks, and some stuff in the Conwy Valley. Conwy then went into local lockdown, so I could still do some Ffestiniog quarries. We then had a firebreak for 2 weeks, so it was back to the river and the Foryd. Out of firebreak, all Wales was available again, so a couple of Conwy Valley trips, then, just before Christmas to Tier 4, which is probably more extreme than England's, exercise from home, we don't get the 10km drive to the start of the excercise now.

Take home message. Don't take the piss and fuck it up for the rest of us.

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« Reply #52 on: January 04, 2021, 09:31:01 am »
Global Moderator Comment Hi all. It's interesting that a link to CNCC advice has prompted such discussion. However, we've had complaints about the language being used by some. You know who you are! It's not necessary. Please tone it down or Pegasus will be in touch. Thank you.

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Re: CNCC updated advice
« Reply #53 on: January 04, 2021, 11:29:43 am »
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No-one, but no-one, is going to drive 15 miles to the shops rather than the one they normally go to 2 miles away. This is a very common situation if you live in the sticks. Kirkby Lonsdale is now tier 4, from tier 2. If you live in Cowan Bridge are you going to drive to Lancaster?
    No, of course not, because Lancaster is Tier 4 too   ;)
                                                     

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« Reply #54 on: January 04, 2021, 11:49:31 am »
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No-one, but no-one, is going to drive 15 miles to the shops rather than the one they normally go to 2 miles away. This is a very common situation if you live in the sticks. Kirkby Lonsdale is now tier 4, from tier 2. If you live in Cowan Bridge are you going to drive to Lancaster?
    No, of course not, because Lancaster is Tier 4 too   ;)
                                                     

It is indeed, and is in Lancashire would you believe it.

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Re: CNCC updated advice
« Reply #55 on: January 05, 2021, 11:43:25 pm »
Less than a week after the previous statement, we are all change again. The following statement has just been approved by our Officers this evening and will be posted on our website tomorrow:

The third national lockdown is upon and this sees a return of the Government message to ‘Stay Home, Protect the NHS, Save Lives’ as the country tries to stop the spread of the virus and prevent our hospitals from being overwhelmed. As with the March 2020 lockdown, leaving home is now only permitted for a limited number of reasons.
 
Some of you will be wondering about provisions for exercise, potentially including caving, during lockdown.
 
The restrictions include provisions for exercise during lockdown to help people maintain fitness and to support wellbeing. However, this exercise must only be taken alone, with your household/ bubble, or with one other person, and it must be in your immediate local area (defined as your village, town or part of the city in which you live).
 
For the vast majority of us, who either prefer to cave with a group of friends, or would need to travel away from our immediate local area to go caving, this means venturing underground is sadly off the cards for the duration of this lockdown. Instead, we advise that the next several weeks provide a much better opportunity to repair oversuits, clean equipment and plan your summer adventures instead.
 
For the small number of people who live on the doorstep of our caves and are intent on visiting them as part of your exercise, we urge you to respect the restrictions on who you can exercise with, and to ensure your exercise regime is low risk and well within your capabilities.
 
We can’t wait to bring you better news over the coming months and to see a return to caving in our region very soon.
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Re: CNCC updated advice
« Reply #56 on: January 06, 2021, 01:06:03 am »
Eminently sensible advice. Thank you.

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« Reply #57 on: January 06, 2021, 08:59:33 am »
...the next several weeks...

Try the next several months  :'(

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Re: CNCC updated advice
« Reply #58 on: January 08, 2021, 05:29:13 pm »
I don't want to be a spoilsport and have found much of this discussion informative and interesting.  However, this thread is titled 'CNCC updated advice' and CNCC advice is aimed at those caving (or not caving) in the Dales.  For the Peak District cavers should look to advice given by the DCA.  I realise the thread has drifted but want to point out that CNCC would not dream of offering advice to people 'exercising' in the Peak whatever that may mean.

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« Reply #59 on: January 08, 2021, 05:35:11 pm »
Moderator Comment I have split the tangential discussion about caving under the new lockdown to a different topic: https://ukcaving.com/board/index.php?topic=27423.25

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« Reply #60 on: March 26, 2021, 04:23:28 pm »
The following further updated advice has been added to our website: https://cncc.org.uk/covid-19

The next stage of lockdown easing in England begins on 29th March.
 
Of greatest relevance for cavers in England is an end to the ‘stay at home’ rule. You will be able to leave your home as often as you wish and for any reason that is not specifically prohibited.
 
This means that caving can, and no doubt will, resume in our region for many people.
 
This stage of lockdown release comes with some differentiations between legal requirement and guidance, particularly with respect to how far you can travel. The information on the Government website urges people after 29th March to minimise the number of journeys and to avoid the busiest times and routes, but there are no legal restrictions on how far you can travel within England. Some Government communications have presented a ‘stay local’ message, which is advice only.
 
Most cavers will already have made their own informed decision on whether to travel for caving after 29th March. This is very much a personal choice. We will support anyone choosing to get back to caving again.
 
In terms of your caving trip, the restrictions limit outdoor meetings to six people or two households. Overnight stays are still not permitted but we hope that club huts will start a phased reopening as restrictions ease further through April, May, and ultimately full reopening in June.
 
Note that in Scotland, the rules remain more restrictive and non-local travel appears to be disallowed until the 26th April at the earliest.
 
Even if you are comfortable with getting outside and going caving as a group, please remember that not all cave rescue volunteers will share in this, and some locals in the Dales may feel uncomfortable if their immediate locality becomes crowded, which is a real risk. Continue to cave well within your abilities, avoid riskier adventures for now, and consider avoiding the honeypot sites if you can.
 
Please use the online booking system (https://booking.cncc.org.uk/) to avoid congestion in the caves of Leck Fell, Casterton Fell and Ingleborough (including Gaping Gill, the Allotment, Newby Moss and Hurnel Moss). On Leck Fell in particular, minimise vehicles as much as possible and park tightly to leave space for others.
 
We are so excited for the next three months and are looking forward to seeing so many of you back out and about when you feel the time is right.

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Re: CNCC updated advice
« Reply #61 on: March 26, 2021, 06:33:31 pm »
Hooray!

 

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