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The Trajectories of Birds
« on: February 14, 2021, 10:44:56 am »
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Re: The Trajectories of Birds
« Reply #1 on: February 14, 2021, 12:01:41 pm »
I once saw that happen ten metres away, 70 metres up, on top of the 'new' Co-op building in Manchester which we were finishing off. Two peregrines had taken up residence on the old tower opposite and were happily picking off pigeons in mid-air all day long - it was fantastic to watch.

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Re: The Trajectories of Birds
« Reply #2 on: February 14, 2021, 12:13:04 pm »
That's excellent Tony - like pwhole I've seen that happen many a time; in my case this was mainly at Malham Cove whilst getting changed to go in. The peregrines' aerobatics are fabulous to watch (unless you're a pigeon   :o ).

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Re: The Trajectories of Birds
« Reply #3 on: February 14, 2021, 12:20:38 pm »
That's excellent Tony....
....The peregrines' aerobatics are fabulous to watch (unless you're a pigeon   :o ).

Shame we can't bring them to the North Wales coast and give them a taste for seagulls  :annoyed:

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Re: The Trajectories of Birds
« Reply #4 on: February 14, 2021, 01:00:22 pm »
Seen it happen about 20 ft. in front of a bird hide on Spurn Head.  Pregerine appeared out of nowhere and shot through a group of small waders, taking one out as it went.  Took a moment to realise what I'd just seen!

Seen it also on a beach in Orkney when a group of starlings were picking over seaweed at low tide - peregrine appeared out of nowhere from behind me and took one out as it shot past.

Always an amazing sight if you're ever lucky enough to see it happen.  Sadly, no pictures of either event.     :(

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Re: The Trajectories of Birds
« Reply #5 on: February 14, 2021, 06:40:13 pm »
I was birding at Prawl Point years ago when s flock of meadow pipits flew over going like the clappers.  Moments later they were hit by a perri and kestril who nearly collided.  I was close enough to hear the impact as each bird of prey took a pipit.  They both went down on the ground within a couple of meters of each other and covered their prey with their wings and hissed at each other.
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Re: The Trajectories of Birds
« Reply #6 on: February 14, 2021, 08:04:33 pm »
I was hedging once on my flat field when a peregrine took a pigeon on the wing just in front of me. As he struggled to get height to take his (fat) kill up to the cliffs where his nest was he was set upon by a pair of buzzards. One of the buzzards repeated bashed into him in the air to the extent that eventually he had to drop the pigeon to save his own neck. As the dead bird fell towards the ground the 2nd buzzard swooped in and took it out of the air and carried it off to the big oak tree the other side of the field. I felt sorry for the falcon but very privileged to have witnessed the whole thing from start to finish.

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Re: The Trajectories of Birds
« Reply #7 on: February 14, 2021, 11:05:47 pm »
Here's one taking a duck midair - from a head-mounted camera:


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Re: The Trajectories of Birds
« Reply #8 on: February 15, 2021, 09:33:17 am »
A few years ago they introduced the red kites here never saw them before now days you see at least 1 a day some times you see a lot more I have seen trees full of them around 20-30 fabulous to view .

I was witness once to waking with a friend and his real
Rabbit skin hat took the interest of a buzzard ! It landed on his Head trying to pull it of I would love to of got this on video !

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Re: The Trajectories of Birds
« Reply #9 on: February 15, 2021, 05:04:38 pm »
A few years ago they introduced the red kites here never saw them before now days you see at least 1 a day some times you see a lot more I have seen trees full of them around 20-30 fabulous to view.
I had a local Red Kite last summer. It gave me some excellent photo opportunities.
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Re: The Trajectories of Birds
« Reply #10 on: February 15, 2021, 05:12:46 pm »
Ooops! I think we've stated an Ornithology Thread.  :shrug:
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Re: The Trajectories of Birds
« Reply #11 on: February 15, 2021, 06:00:49 pm »
Seems like it !   Good thread though........could one of the mods split it off please??

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Re: The Trajectories of Birds
« Reply #12 on: February 15, 2021, 08:33:33 pm »
Seems like it !   Good thread though........could one of the mods split it off please??
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Re: The Trajectories of Birds
« Reply #13 on: February 15, 2021, 08:39:41 pm »
Where did it start?

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Re: The Trajectories of Birds
« Reply #14 on: February 15, 2021, 08:54:44 pm »
Over in the silly pics thread!

I once had the privilege of seeing a peregrine swoop into a mumuration of starlings right opposite my house in a snowstorm...
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Re: The Trajectories of Birds
« Reply #15 on: February 15, 2021, 08:59:35 pm »
Plenty of peregrine across the whole country now, including nesting in towns, don't seem to be particularly interested in seagulls though

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Re: The Trajectories of Birds
« Reply #16 on: February 15, 2021, 09:04:27 pm »
We were in the garden last summer when something went for the starlings, as they scattered, one of them ended up in the kitchen. It all happened so fast, I'm not sure exactly what went for them, but my initial thought was sparrow hawk. Certainly the more exciting side of bird watching!

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Re: The Trajectories of Birds
« Reply #17 on: February 15, 2021, 09:17:34 pm »
Almost certainly a sprawk

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Re: The Trajectories of Birds
« Reply #18 on: February 15, 2021, 10:28:04 pm »
I was climbing on "The Gates of Delirium" on Raven crag in the Lake District. Just got across the traverse and was belaying my second when there was an odd noise like a falling rock and I looked outwards - and down over the trees far below.

The sight I saw is etched in my memory even now.

A "Thing" shot past me, about 10 feet out from the crag (making me jump) its trajectory was about a 45 degree angle and it was just a blur to my eyes. My eye followed the line of the "blur" and there was a swiftly flapping pigeon way down below - flying over the trees.
The pigeon suddenly jerked very sharp right and dropped into the canopy. The "Blur" overshot, slowed down and turned into a Peregrine - who made a right hand turn like a supertanker and then wondered where its quarry had gone.

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Re: The Trajectories of Birds
« Reply #19 on: February 15, 2021, 10:46:02 pm »
Were they laden or unladen?

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Re: The Trajectories of Birds
« Reply #20 on: February 15, 2021, 11:00:21 pm »
Ooops! I think we've stated an Ornithology Thread.  :shrug:

you wouldn't believe the miles my family did following t' peak district vulture last year ' Vigo' was magnificent. saw her 5 times in differing locations, bought a proper scope and ironically saw her  less than 10m away in flight.
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Re: The Trajectories of Birds
« Reply #21 on: February 16, 2021, 07:59:55 am »
Despite living amongst the towering, magnificent mountain ranges and vast chasms of Suffolk, the only place we get Peregrins is on the cooling towers of the sugar factory in Bury St. Edmunds & on the hideous BT carbuncle near Ipswich. We do, however, get lots of Kestrels and those bullet-like assassins that are Sparrowhawks. The latter come hurtling down our side hedge, nip over by the bird tables, and snatch collar doves in the blink of an eye, leaving behind a cloud of feathers.

Numbers of Buzzards are increasing and as a result, the hare population took a bit of a dive for a couple of years, but the latter have now learned to stick to the edges of the fields, rather than dash around in the open. I did spot a Red Kite only a few miles away the other day, so hopefully, they'll soon be drifting around our local skies. They do make the most peculiar noise though.
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Re: The Trajectories of Birds
« Reply #22 on: February 16, 2021, 08:10:16 am »
Are breeding programme locally helped massively in the local area and they are definitely spreading further a field https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.northantstelegraph.co.uk/news/people/peculiar-case-corbys-dive-bombing-birds-2882266%3famp

The buzzards numbers as far as I can remember personally have always been strong  neither of these birds have ever caused a issue locally I am aware of , the red kite though when I am at my sisters her daughter has a rabbit in a run outside and they do  glide the thermals watching this they have never tried to take it but I think their knowledge is starting to increase.  As I am writing this now I can hear a pair of kites calling each other they are very common here is brilliant

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Re: The Trajectories of Birds
« Reply #23 on: February 16, 2021, 08:53:48 am »


I was witness once to waking with a friend and his real
Rabbit skin hat took the interest of a buzzard ! It landed on his Head trying to pull it of I would love to of got this on video !

My dad used to tell a story of when he was night fishing.  Sitting quietly in the early hours he had an owl land on his head !  We think he was mistaken for a  tree stump or fence post.
He was very embarrassed not to ID the species of owl as he never saw it, but in the darkness it couldn't have been anything other than an owl.

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Re: The Trajectories of Birds
« Reply #24 on: February 16, 2021, 09:59:09 am »
What was he wearing, as they have pretty sharp claws?

 

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