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Cornish caves?
« on: December 16, 2008, 04:01:54 pm »
Hi Folks,

I had my first caving experience last week over at Pridhamsleigh and it was awesome... I have another 6 trips booked in early next year planning to take in Prid a couple more times, Bakers Pit and Swildons.

I live in Redruth, Cornwall and I have searched various forums to find out if there's anything in my local area...

Am I right in thinking that my closest subterranean paradise is Southern Devon or are there some well kept secrets closer to home?!?

Any Info or advice would be greatly appreciated.

Paul
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Re: Cornish caves?
« Reply #1 on: December 16, 2008, 04:07:25 pm »
Hi Coxie and welcome to the site.

Sadly, for you, the geology of Cornwall is not exactly conducive to cave formation. As you rightly say, however, there is plenty of good stuff not so far away in Devon.
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Re: Cornish caves?
« Reply #2 on: December 16, 2008, 04:31:10 pm »
there is plenty of good stuff not so far away in Devon.

When were all these good caves discovered? Why didn't anyone tell me!? I thought that there were only 3 good ones, one of which has fluorescent lighting, wheelchair access and bear sound effects.

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« Reply #3 on: December 16, 2008, 04:31:33 pm »
Although Cornwall is lacking natural caves, it is blessed with thousands of underground sites of interest in the form of the old mines. These may not be of interest to you, or again they maybe - there is a lot of common ground in the exploration of both. From my limited knowledge of the mines there, most will require the use of ropes to a greater or lesser degree, and the ability to cope with hazards like false floors, rotting timbers, bad air, etc...
Check out some of the content and pics on the mine exploration sites such as http://www.aditnow.co.uk/default.aspx or http://www.mine-explorer.co.uk/default.asp. If it is only the natural that flicks your switch, you will have to put with commuting up the A30...

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« Reply #4 on: December 16, 2008, 04:41:18 pm »
Christian, you have been missing out.  Get yourself a copy of Concise Caves of Devon and enjoy!

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Re: Cornish caves?
« Reply #5 on: December 16, 2008, 04:47:44 pm »
there is plenty of good stuff not so far away in Devon.

When were all these good caves discovered? Why didn't anyone tell me!? I thought that there were only 3 good ones, one of which has fluorescent lighting, wheelchair access and bear sound effects.

Coo, it didn't have the bear sounds when I were last there. Must go again.
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Re: Cornish caves?
« Reply #6 on: December 16, 2008, 04:50:59 pm »
Concise Caves of Devon

Concise? The book or the caves?  :tease:

Can I have a to do list? I've only been to Baker's pit and I know Prid is supposed to be good but other than that? I live near Exeter when I'm not at uni so I would like to find some good caves in Devon!

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Re: Cornish caves?
« Reply #7 on: December 16, 2008, 04:53:47 pm »
There is a copy of that book in our Library but I would not rely on it, it's long out of date and wasn't particularly good on the details even when new. I can find you some hilarious reviews of it, when it was first published.
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Re: Cornish caves?
« Reply #8 on: December 16, 2008, 07:03:57 pm »
Christian, you have been missing out.  Get yourself a copy of Concise Caves of Devon and enjoy!

AH

Is this book out of print? I can't seem to find it anywhere, plenty of references though.

Thanks for the advice everyone, I will check out those links too... Mines sound a bit dodgy to me though!

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Re: Cornish caves?
« Reply #9 on: December 16, 2008, 07:05:50 pm »
No book from that source has ever been out of print.  :lol: :lol:
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« Reply #10 on: December 16, 2008, 08:14:13 pm »
well.. just across the river tamar....... in plymouth.. theres Radford.. i like radford.. and afton red rift.

Otherwise its just mines galore.. theres a certain charm to mines.. death charm.

Go cave with PCG (Plymouth caving group) they're an awesome bunch. Very tolerant even when i called them old folks. :halo: .. they cave on tuesday evenings.

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Re: Cornish caves?
« Reply #11 on: December 16, 2008, 09:46:28 pm »
You could also try the Devon SS   Les W and mrodoc could help you with contact names and address.

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Re: Cornish caves?
« Reply #12 on: December 17, 2008, 08:38:44 am »
Caves of Devon.  Yes there is a book.  Just revised and reprinted.  But I am not allowed to tell you about it   >:(

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Re: Cornish caves?
« Reply #13 on: December 17, 2008, 09:47:42 am »
Caves of Devon.  Yes there is a book.  Just revised and reprinted.  But I am not allowed to tell you about it   >:(

Sounds a bit cloaks and daggers to me...   I do however think that I have found said book and am looking forward to recieving it.
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Re: Cornish caves?
« Reply #14 on: December 17, 2008, 10:12:22 am »
Concise Caves of Devon

Concise? The book or the caves?  :tease:

Can I have a to do list? I've only been to Baker's pit and I know Prid is supposed to be good but other than that? I live near Exeter when I'm not at uni so I would like to find some good caves in Devon!

I would also appreciate a to do / tick list if anyone has any suggestions.
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Re: Cornish caves?
« Reply #15 on: December 17, 2008, 12:27:50 pm »
Hi Coxie

I live in Newquay.  Sorry I can't take you underground (disability) but there are a number of groups who may be able to help, eg Plymouth Caving Group.  You could check out the Devon and Cornwall Underground Council website.

There's a few mines which only require basic equipment such as Cligga and adits near St Just but the majority of serious trips involve SRT etc.

There are no "proper" caves (limestone) in Cornwall but there are a few impressive sea caves which occasionally lead into mine workings such as Seal Hole (St Agnes) and Wheal Coates (also St Agnes). 


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Re: Cornish caves?
« Reply #16 on: December 17, 2008, 08:18:32 pm »
There are no "proper" caves (limestone) in Cornwall

That's not strictly true Gus, the Consise Caves of Devon gives two limestone caves in Cornwall, Empacombe caves no's. 1 & 2.
Maybe not worth the commute but certainly worth a thought if passing (although where you were headed if you were passing is beyond me)

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Re: Cornish caves?
« Reply #17 on: December 17, 2008, 10:09:59 pm »
There are no "proper" caves (limestone) in Cornwall

That's not strictly true Gus, the Consise Caves of Devon gives two limestone caves in Cornwall, Empacombe caves no's. 1 & 2.
Maybe not worth the commute but certainly worth a thought if passing (although where you were headed if you were passing is beyond me)

http://streetmap.co.uk/map.srf?x=244425&y=52705&z=0&sv=sx44425270&st=5&mapp=map.srf&searchp=ids.srf

Are they worth a look then?  I work in and around Plymouth.
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Re: Cornish caves?
« Reply #18 on: December 17, 2008, 10:39:08 pm »
Caves are always worth a look  :thumbsup:
However, the Concise Caves of Devon (Including Cornwall  :lol: ) says:

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Empacombe Caves
Cremyll, Cornwall

2 caves in a disused quarry, on the south bank of the Hamoaze, in the only outcrop of Middle Devonian Limestone in Cornwall.

Empacombe Cave No 1.
NGR SX 4442/5270 L 20 feet

A single solution tube which dips down to a sump, too tight after 10 feet

Empacombe Cave No 2.
NGR SX 4442/5270 L 50 feet

Above and to the left of Empacombe Cave No 1. An awkward entrance passage leads to a low chamber 12 feet long and 2 feet high. Another chamber with a pool adjoins and a passage heads towards the surface.

ACCESS - Permission to visit should be obtained from Empacombe Farm

My gut feeling is that you would only visit them once  ;D
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Re: Cornish caves?
« Reply #19 on: December 18, 2008, 08:55:27 pm »
Hi Coxie,If you go to Holywell (between Perranporth & Newquay) there is an interesting sea cave with pink gour pools towards the northern end of the beach. It has a small stream emerging.Some of the caves on Perranporth beach are longer than the average sea cave and may have been mined. If you do visit them,go with a couple of mates,and dont get cut off by the tide !
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Re: Cornish caves?
« Reply #20 on: December 20, 2008, 10:40:43 am »
Thanks everyone for youe advice and guidance... Its going to be an interesting year!

Paul
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Re: Cornish caves?
« Reply #21 on: December 10, 2017, 01:42:41 am »
There is a book on the Caves of Cornwall...

It is 80 pages long and still being added to  :o

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Re: Cornish caves?
« Reply #22 on: December 13, 2017, 10:05:27 pm »
Ohhhhhh ma gawwwwwwwwd if poking around in sea caves makes you a caver, I'll get my speedos on next time I go c*ving.

Cornwall is all about da mines, homie. In fact, it's the very geology that makes it rich in minerals that prohibits any caves from forming.

I personally think Oldham is being cheeky internet troll by calling his word doc book 'Caves of Cornwall'.  ;) Basically, it's what you get if you look at the OS landranger and start tapping away each time you see 'cave' mentioned... Trouble is most are mines or tumuli or just otherwise not caves, innit. The rest are fake, sea c*ves (tis a good bit of research, tho)

If you're a caver, we recommend you check your privilege before entering god's county. When you feel your white guilt has reached its apex and you feel ready to enter, check out the Cornwall Records Office for mine plans or any section of coastline between Perranuthnoe and Porthleven; Sennen to St Ives; or Hayle to Holywell and you'll be smitten with all the wet, gaping holes ready to enter. If anyone asks, say we sent you :ang: