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Title: Eyam dale house digging?
Post by: benshannon on October 24, 2020, 10:20:55 am
I'm heading into eyam dale house in a few weeks. I notice on the 1985 survey that there is a drafting dig towards the dynamite series of Carlswalk. Did this ever go? Is it a still an active dig?
Title: Re: Eyam dale house digging?
Post by: 2xw on October 24, 2020, 10:43:07 am
Iirc it was smoke tested by John Beck as coming from Dynamite series. If dug through I sense it would make a particularly squalid through trip. Personally I reckon tother end of it goes to Ivy Green

If you want a dig in stoney there are much better prospects!
Title: Re: Eyam dale house digging?
Post by: Rob on October 24, 2020, 02:29:35 pm
I'm not certain that it'll be squalid the whole way. According to survey there's 15m elevation difference (Picnic Passage is lower), so there's probably at least one bit you'll be able to stand up  ;D

But agree it's not the best dig in Stoney  :clap2:
Title: Re: Eyam dale house digging?
Post by: benshannon on October 24, 2020, 02:42:42 pm
But it would be cool to link the two cave systems.

I Would be keep to dig and open that up
Title: Re: Eyam dale house digging?
Post by: 2xw on October 24, 2020, 05:11:58 pm
Go on then, it would be cool to be fair. If you need ewt let me know - you've got me on Facebook. Drop us an email and I can help with the beaurocracy.
Title: Re: Eyam dale house digging?
Post by: Topimo on October 24, 2020, 06:59:02 pm
I had the same thought until I looked at the digging in the Picnic end. Grim.

Those Pembo Bros were daft as.

But yes it would be a great through trip for Derbyshite's "Brown Book".

Had a look at the EDHC end with Starless Tony, much more approachable, but still not an easy or fun dig, especially if you're new to digging. Easy wins are good, they encourage you to keep going, or to stop digging/caving entirely depending on your character, see P8.

Have a good search on this forum as there are plenty of threads to provide info.

Good luck.
Title: Re: Eyam dale house digging?
Post by: alastairgott on October 24, 2020, 10:38:12 pm
Easy digging, got my vote there topimo! What about some of the fissures in the quarry on the opposite side of stoney? I seem to remember some from a walk I did in the first quarry from the big layby near stoney.

Top bench, about halfway along the southern edge of the quarry, seems to be some interesting fissures in the face there.

Otherwise if your like a pig in muck, try fatigue pot. A lovely cave, which needs some love which me and topimo couldn't show it.
Title: Re: Eyam dale house digging?
Post by: Topimo on October 24, 2020, 10:52:09 pm
Ref Fatigue.

The rift at the end that leads to the valley centre where you can allegedly hear a stream after rain could do with some energetic expansion. Maybe.
Title: Re: Eyam dale house digging?
Post by: JB35 on October 25, 2020, 08:33:08 am
I’ve been looking for a dig down Stoney of late if anyone has any more good suggestions? Easy digging with big wins sounds great...

Had a look down rubble rift the other night but it looks like it needs a lot of TLC before any significant removal can commence.
Title: Re: Eyam dale house digging?
Post by: 2xw on October 25, 2020, 09:33:08 am
Drop us a pm or email JB
Title: Re: Eyam dale house digging?
Post by: martinb on October 25, 2020, 07:26:04 pm
I’ve been looking for a dig down Stoney of late if anyone has any more good suggestions? Easy digging with big wins sounds great...

Had a look down rubble rift the other night but it looks like it needs a lot of TLC before any significant removal can commence.

Got one in Merlins if you're interested. 5 mins easy stroll from entrance, may pay dividends for little input.

Also a bit of work in Sunday Mine (and Sunday Mine Aaron's Entrance) as the 2 intersect - voice connection for definate - would give a through trip. 5 mins in Sunday Mine from entrance, maybe 10-15 mins in Aaron's entrance.

There's also the boulder choke in Streaks just begging for a poke - horrendous trip to the end though!

And on that subject, another boulder choke in Yoga Cave is just ripe for whacking with a long pole, and it's barely 5 -10 mins from entrance.

And if anyone's interested in pushing a lead in Herne Hill Number 1, 5 mins from entrance, then just ask.
Title: Re: Eyam dale house digging?
Post by: Pipster on October 25, 2020, 10:31:13 pm
And on that subject, another boulder choke in Yoga Cave is just ripe for whacking with a long pole, and it's barely 5 -10 mins from entrance.

Hi Martin - Where abouts? We have an active dig at the end of the Yoga Cave where it intersects Streaks Vein - see Descent 275. :-)
Title: Re: Eyam dale house digging?
Post by: Pipster on October 25, 2020, 10:47:48 pm
I always wondered if it would be worthwhile opening up the Nickergrove main level again - past the current collapse (in the 90s) beyond Rift Chamber. I'm pretty sure I read that that it went for some distance into further mine workings, and think I recall something about some natural in there (although I can't be certain). I've never researched it though, so getting hold of any literature, to find out what was discovered would be interesting. Pretty sure there will be people on this forum who would know though....
Title: Re: Eyam dale house digging?
Post by: Pipster on October 25, 2020, 10:59:02 pm
Easy digging with big wins sounds great...

Isn't that what we all want? :lol:
Title: Re: Eyam dale house digging?
Post by: Pipster on October 25, 2020, 11:09:35 pm
I always wondered if it would be worthwhile opening up the Nickergrove main level again - past the current collapse (in the 90s) beyond Rift Chamber. I'm pretty sure I read that that it went for some distance into further mine workings, and think I recall something about some natural in there (although I can't be certain). I've never researched it though, so getting hold of any literature, to find out what was discovered would be interesting. Pretty sure there will be people on this forum who would know though....

I couldn't resist a quick google; looks like DPC took a quick look in 2017 (also mentions the bit of natural)...
http://thedpc.co.uk/projects/other (http://thedpc.co.uk/projects/other)

26/01/17 – After checking out the shaft on the west end of White Rake on the Monday we decided to have a look at the collapse in Nickergove which is blocking the level heading pretty much straight for it. We understand the level essentially ends at a forefield inches away from White Rake but there was also a silted tube heading off in the vicinity. With this in mind, we thought we’d check out quite how big the collapse is that is currently blocking the way on. As it turns out, it’s pretty big, but about 30 minutes digging managed to create a void in the roof and it’s certainly do-able but it would be a long-term dig. There’s a huge volume of material to shift and it may even mean reinstating the old railway installed by John Beck & Co. Satisfied we’d had a good look, we headed out, washed up and scuttled off to The Moon. We’ll probably leave this one for someone else. (Rob, Ed, Mike)
Title: Re: Eyam dale house digging?
Post by: martinb on October 26, 2020, 03:54:54 pm
And on that subject, another boulder choke in Yoga Cave is just ripe for whacking with a long pole, and it's barely 5 -10 mins from entrance.

Hi Martin - Where abouts? We have an active dig at the end of the Yoga Cave where it intersects Streaks Vein - see Descent 275. :-)

Thats the one, we looked at it about 10 years ago, looks promising if you like big, unstable chokes!
Title: Re: Eyam dale house digging?
Post by: martinb on October 26, 2020, 03:57:15 pm
I always wondered if it would be worthwhile opening up the Nickergrove main level again - past the current collapse (in the 90s) beyond Rift Chamber. I'm pretty sure I read that that it went for some distance into further mine workings, and think I recall something about some natural in there (although I can't be certain). I've never researched it though, so getting hold of any literature, to find out what was discovered would be interesting. Pretty sure there will be people on this forum who would know though....

I couldn't resist a quick google; looks like DPC took a quick look in 2017 (also mentions the bit of natural)...
http://thedpc.co.uk/projects/other (http://thedpc.co.uk/projects/other)

26/01/17 – After checking out the shaft on the west end of White Rake on the Monday we decided to have a look at the collapse in Nickergove which is blocking the level heading pretty much straight for it. We understand the level essentially ends at a forefield inches away from White Rake but there was also a silted tube heading off in the vicinity. With this in mind, we thought we’d check out quite how big the collapse is that is currently blocking the way on. As it turns out, it’s pretty big, but about 30 minutes digging managed to create a void in the roof and it’s certainly do-able but it would be a long-term dig. There’s a huge volume of material to shift and it may even mean reinstating the old railway installed by John Beck & Co. Satisfied we’d had a good look, we headed out, washed up and scuttled off to The Moon. We’ll probably leave this one for someone else. (Rob, Ed, Mike)

Ditto this, we looked at the collapse about the time we opened up the blocked shaft and crawl into Nickergrove Streamway, my mate took a look at it and decided it was someone elses problem!
Title: Re: Eyam dale house digging?
Post by: Pipster on October 29, 2020, 09:42:25 am
Back to Eyam Dale House Cave, Caves of the Peak District mentions "passages enlarges until the Roomy North West Chamber is reached, with various digging possibilities" - sounds interesting! Although this is the opposite end of the cave to where the potential connection to Dynamite Series is.
Title: Re: Eyam dale house digging?
Post by: Rob on October 29, 2020, 10:02:29 am
Not sure i've been to NW Chamber but it's certainly heading into an interesting area, heading for some prominent cross rifts in the Glebe workings which do have natural development on.

It may be interesting to note it's also one of the highest bits of natural in the catchment.

Survey attached for interest.
Title: Re: Eyam dale house digging?
Post by: pwhole on October 29, 2020, 12:21:59 pm
I've got a couple of average-quality (onboard flash) shots of NW Chamber - first looking SE, from forward of the base of the 6m pitch, and the second looking NW from the same spot - presumably the boulder choke is where the leads might be as I don't remember much in the roof behind John. Though it was nine years ago...
Title: Re: Eyam dale house digging?
Post by: benshannon on October 29, 2020, 12:45:29 pm
Well this is exciting 😁😁😁 Gona have a look at that boulder choke for sure 😁😁😁
Title: Re: Eyam dale house digging?
Post by: pwhole on October 29, 2020, 01:04:27 pm
Remember it's a wide-angle lens on that second shot, so it probably isn't as big as it looks ;)
Title: Re: Eyam dale house digging?
Post by: Pipster on October 29, 2020, 02:17:22 pm
Yeah, it looks like it could well be an interesting spot (thanks Rob for and pwhole); I'm not sure I've ever been up to that bit either. I certainly can't remember anyway; it would be at least 10 years since I last visited.

Ben - let us know how you get on!  :thumbsup:


Title: Re: Eyam dale house digging?
Post by: al on October 29, 2020, 02:45:00 pm
When you get to the foot of the second pitch, there's usually time to nip up to North West Chamber while the others are removing their SRT rigs in preparation for passing through the Gates.
Title: Re: Eyam dale house digging?
Post by: Rob on October 29, 2020, 03:08:18 pm
If Cussey is anything to go by, it would be worth looking out for any strong outward draughts...
Title: Re: Eyam dale house digging?
Post by: Mark on October 29, 2020, 05:53:32 pm
I think John Beck was quite interested in the tube on the left wall of NW Chamber, heading SE, and was digging it until tom Proctor found the way on at the Pearly Gates.

I agree with Rob about the potential for new draughts as things have definitely changed in Eyam
Title: Re: Eyam dale house digging?
Post by: pwhole on October 29, 2020, 11:05:05 pm
Have they maybe changed the fans down the road?  ;)
Title: Re: Eyam dale house digging?
Post by: Mark on October 30, 2020, 05:22:23 am
Have they maybe changed the fans down the road?  ;)

Yup
Title: Re: Eyam dale house digging?
Post by: Mrs Trellis on October 30, 2020, 09:28:58 am
For the benefit of those "not in the know" - I take it you mean ventilation devices in underground work areas and not keen followers of a particular sport.
Title: Re: Eyam dale house digging?
Post by: pwhole on October 30, 2020, 10:19:14 am
Erm - yes, ventilation fans - sorry. Although following them as a sport has always been interesting ;)
Title: Re: Eyam dale house digging?
Post by: Mrs Trellis on October 30, 2020, 01:14:32 pm
Are we talking Sallet Hole Mine or other areas of mineral exploitation?
Title: Re: Eyam dale house digging?
Post by: Pipster on October 30, 2020, 02:27:15 pm
I'm curious too! Glebe perhaps?
Title: Re: Eyam dale house digging?
Post by: danthecavingman on October 30, 2020, 02:56:23 pm
I would have thought [name removed]. Assuming the pumps are running and the route through to the sough is open (not flooded) then any forced ventilation at [name removed] could be blowing through to Eyam / Stoney.
Title: Re: Eyam dale house digging?
Post by: Rob on October 30, 2020, 03:00:02 pm
Well there goes any hope of keeping this thread from being Google searchable by people that may be interested...  :spank:  :wall:
Title: Re: Eyam dale house digging?
Post by: danthecavingman on October 30, 2020, 03:25:59 pm
If someone had said please don't answer might have helped sorry 🤷🏻‍♂️ Didn't realise we were trying to keep things below the radar....
This is Eyam Dale House we're talking about yes?
Title: Re: Eyam dale house digging?
Post by: T pot 2 on October 30, 2020, 04:44:14 pm
You were only supposed to blow the bloody doors off.
Title: Re: Eyam dale house digging?
Post by: pwhole on October 30, 2020, 05:57:36 pm
Good grief, there are maps and roadsigns available. Even StreetView. Hahah. Keeping things below the radar is default. Mods! Guillotine request ;)
Title: Re: Eyam dale house digging?
Post by: benshannon on October 30, 2020, 06:42:57 pm
Lol. That escalated. I'll keep my Eye on instagram. Lol
Title: Re: Eyam dale house digging?
Post by: Mrs Trellis on October 30, 2020, 07:41:58 pm
Keep digging Ben, but if you see a bloke on a man-rider stop immediately. You've "thurled through"!
Title: Re: Eyam dale house digging?
Post by: benshannon on October 30, 2020, 08:51:19 pm
😂😂😂😂😂
Title: Re: Eyam dale house digging?
Post by: Pipster on October 30, 2020, 11:20:21 pm
haha wtf; so can we delete everything from reply #26 on onwards?  :)
Title: Re: Eyam dale house digging?
Post by: Mrs Trellis on November 01, 2020, 12:36:37 pm
The article in Derbyshire Life on a trip down XXXXXXX XXXX is worth a read.
Title: Re: Eyam dale house digging?
Post by: pwhole on November 01, 2020, 05:17:26 pm
I'd not seen that one before, so thanks ;)
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