Author Topic: Consultation on Section 10.1 of the BCA Constitution  (Read 5135 times)

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Re: Consultation on Section 10.1 of the BCA Constitution
« Reply #75 on: May 23, 2021, 09:51:33 pm »
The problem is that whole Constitution needs rewriting, not just one section, which will take longer than the next AGM

I couldn't agree more, however that is not the subject of this thread.

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Re: Consultation on Section 10.1 of the BCA Constitution
« Reply #76 on: May 23, 2021, 10:01:56 pm »
Indeed, but what you seem to want to add may well contradict stuff that is written elsewhere.

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Re: Consultation on Section 10.1 of the BCA Constitution
« Reply #77 on: May 24, 2021, 07:11:17 am »
Indeed, but what you seem to want to add may well contradict stuff that is written elsewhere.

Best sit back and schedule meetings for the next ten years then.
Too dangerous to actually take any actions in case we have to change things later.
If there are enough meetings with people running in circles waving their hands in the air we can look busy.

It may not be perfect, but better to do something and move forward than sit about forever seeking a mythical perfection!

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Re: Consultation on Section 10.1 of the BCA Constitution
« Reply #78 on: May 24, 2021, 07:24:47 am »
It's more that the wording may not be actionable, because of the independence of members stated at the start of the document.

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Re: Consultation on Section 10.1 of the BCA Constitution
« Reply #79 on: May 24, 2021, 07:56:40 am »
Hence, "notwithstanding section 1".  Maybe there is a better phrase which will allow some investigation and actions on matters that affect the majority.

It is so much easier to keep kicking these cans down the road than actually getting on and addressing issues.

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Re: Consultation on Section 10.1 of the BCA Constitution
« Reply #80 on: May 24, 2021, 09:19:32 am »
The Finance Committee Procedures (BCA Funding of Regional Councils) already states:
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2) Principles
(2.1) To ensure the funding is spent for the benefit of BCA members and is transparent.
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7) Implementation
(7.1) Funding is to be spent for benefit of BCA members.
(a) The running costs of a particular Regional Council (photocopying, postage, room hire, stationary, phone bills, and travel expenses of officers to meetings) is deemed to be to the benefit of all BCA members since there are councils for all regions providing similar benefits.
(b) The test for C&A funding is that as a minimum access is available to all BCA members.
(Should be stationery, not stationary)

So, as it stands now, if BCA don't believe a member body is acting in the best interests of overall membership, they don't have to fund them. If the body don't ask for funding then there's nothing, short of suspension / expulsion, that BCA can do anyway. It also says:
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9) Access Body Funding
(9.1) An Access Body can apply to the Finance Committee for funded status via their Regional Council. The Finance Committee will judge each application on its merits.
(9.2) Access Body funding is via their respective Regional Council.
(9.3) Funded Access Body (FAB) expenditure is included with their respective Regional Council expenditure and processed in the same way using the same procedures.
(a) An analysis of the expenditure reimbursed to each FAB should be shown as a note to the Regional Council accounts, broken down by cost heading (Running Costs / C&A, etc.).
(b) The FAB’s C&A expenditure can be presented as a project or be counted towards the Regional Council’s £750 allowance.
(c) FAB’s travel expenses are not paid.
[My highlight]
« Last Edit: May 24, 2021, 09:32:02 am by mikem »

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Re: Consultation on Section 10.1 of the BCA Constitution
« Reply #81 on: May 24, 2021, 10:35:04 am »
Yes, mikem.  I know what they say.  I spent two years working within the BCA democratic process to update the regional council funding rules so that all areas could benefit more from the central body cash.  It's quite amusing now, on reflection, that the biggest opposition to this change came from CSCC representatives - who are now the largest beneficiaries of the changes in terms of extra funding.  A good outcome me thinks.

However, funding rules is not the constitution and a motion passed at the BCA AGM does need to be acted upon.  As this BCA working group is doing.

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Re: Consultation on Section 10.1 of the BCA Constitution
« Reply #82 on: May 24, 2021, 10:51:25 am »
You may know, but majority of members don't. & The officers of CSCC have mostly changed in that time.

I'm not saying it can't be rewritten, but the options are severely limited by the rest of the constitution & operating procedures.

 

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