A Bagshawe Birthday en Francais

tdobson

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For my mother's 73rd birthday, she told me she wanted to do a harder trip. Offers of Giants Round trip were ruled out, and we settled on the idea of a trip to Bagshawe Cavern.

Bagshawe Cavern is one of the longer caves in the Peak District, but a tourist trip there (as we have done *many* times) would not show you the very very less trodden corners.

Our goal was to pass the french connection - an unmarked connection on the survey, and find our way to the fixed up rope in Madame Guillotine. We spoke to EPC, who control access, and were advised that the Connection "was definitely sumped now", we set off anyway.

From the Hippodrome, up the Snakes Pyjamas, through the dug connection to Taylor's Way and up to Full Moon Chamber. There we paused to cool down and get our breath back, before following the conservation tape to admire The Great Aven before then returning to Moose's Revenge, down the slope, and descending its glory til we reached Finn's Pot.

Finn's Pot is graced with some ancient ceiling bolts on each side, and one traverse line later, everyone was complaining about crossing... until they'd got to the otherside, they proclaimed how much easier it was than they'd been expecting.

From Finn's Pot, I lead the way into the French Connection proper - feeling claustrophobic as I entered the downward sloping mud tunnel. After a while, I hit a puddle, and pushing onwards, I came to what looked like a sump.

Calling Nadia to watch (so she could pull my ankles if required), I lay on my back, and sung as I slid head first, face to the ceiling, into the muddy puddle.

# I'm walking in the air #

Airspace was never a problem, but pushing on the muddy bottom with my feet was slow going.

# I'm riding in the midnight blue #

After what felt like an age, the roof opened up into a hole... with enough room to turn around in it! I clambered and slithered and stressed and pulled myself into Wave of Apathy...

A look up spotted some scaffolding - a very positive sign.

I advised Nadia to suggest that my mum didn't follow through the duck - as it is not a place where one could easily support someone - and whilst the duck would probably have been within her reach - the scramble up to Wave of Apathy may have been very hard work.

Note: shortly above the water, once you escape the tube, is a hanging boulder that blocks the route to Wave of Apathy. This could do with hauling up the slope as it is loose and at risk of falling, hurting someone or probably blocking the exit in a very difficult to unblock way.

In the end only Nadia followed me through to Wave of Apathy, and up the scaffolding to Madame Guillotine where we admired the up rope, santa gnome, pristine gour pools, spacious area and solid scaffolding.

The vertical pitch at Madame Guillotine looks to be about 15-20m but it's hard to judge for sure. As we had no SRT kit, this was the point we turned around.

On the return journey, the descent from wave of Apathy into the duck was quite exciting - as we'd decided we wanted to again do it on our back (to keep our face out of the water) and head first (to allow for each propulsion). This mean launching down the muddy slope head first in a slide, with a quick flip onto ones back at the bottom. In the end, this turned out to be faster, slicker and funnier than had been expected, and almost made the nose to ceiling mudbath more enjoyable on the way back.

Soon me and Nadia were returning up the long, low, mud tube slog to Finn's Pot, feeling surprisingly tired - where we found the others waiting.

After zipping back across the pot, and up Moose's Revenge, we sped down Taylor's way, reaching the Snakes Pyjamas in no time and were soon back in the Hippodrome.

Everyone feeling thoroughly shattered, we headed back to the stairs for a long needed calf workout.

Happy Birthday to my mum! Hope this was an adequate present!

Photo: the mothership crosses Finn's Pot.
 

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tdobson

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"It's gonna be too wet", I said to Dan.

Bagshawe Cavern may have a reputation as a beginner cave, but its remote reaches are gnarly, serious and underexplored.
As we walked through the main series, my heart sank - we saw knee deep puddles where things are usually dry.
The connection we were aiming for is notoriously prone to flooding and whilst Me and Nadia had sneaked through a month ago, but Storm Corrie had since passed - creating the deep water in the dry main series.
The flood-prone connection would be completely underwater now.

?

Feet first, we pushed ourselves down the muddy tube.

With no space to turn, we wanted an easy escape once we reached the Sump
?Dan?, I said, ?I think I can feel a draught?.
Sliding into the first pool (?the hot tub?), I saw a sliver of airspace, and with my ears in the water - passed through to the next bit.
Dan followed, with less complaining than I was expecting, and joined to watch me take on the next section - a narrow tube 2.5m long - about a body?s width and depth? half full of water and liquid mud. I slid my ears in again - and pushed myself along, admiring the patterned ceiling.
In what seemed like seconds, Dan was right behind me, watching me struggle up the mud slide slope whilst he waited in the water.

?

I neared the top of the bouncy fixed rope.

There was a rebelay.
The bolts looked? archaeological.
I rigged the rope for Dan, and let him join me on the modern rope, though considering the bolts, I wasn?t sure how much difference that?d actually make.

?

We proceeded in the direction of the Bowl.

A squeeze appeared. I went first. Several minutes past. Dan appeared.
?Did not like? let?s turn round?.
I agreed we should turn round, but given that turning round would mean immediately repeating the awkward squeeze. We continued a little way to some untouched gour pools, protected with tape.

?

?The nice thing about mars bars?

I told Dan on the way back ?is that they don?t fall apart?.
I was lying back, having just made it back down the rope of doom and through the watery bits and was now eating a mars bar.
I took a final bite, and a face full of mars bar dust fell into my beard.

?

The Holywood Bowl remains elusive, and those pieces of the Bagshawe Full Moon Series to New Series through trip are still to be figured out? but with the watery bits unsumped? the opportunities are here and now. Bagshawe Cavern?s top-most level is there for those who choose explore it.
 

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JonP

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Great report and glad someone else has actually been back there...

There's another awkward squeeze beyond that squeeze just near Hollywood bowl pitch head but its a lot more exciting the other way heading up the dale.
Also at the bottom of Madame Guillotine there's a further squeeze to gain access to an awesome looking dig which I doubt nobody has looked at in years but the squeeze is one of the best in there.

as for the "Full Moon Series to New Series through trip" this trip is via a gour pool which has to be pumped even in seriously dry weather. The owner of the cavern and custodians restricted access through this section due to risk of damaging formations plus now access is easily available to and from the Full Moon series ~(this gour used to be the only access to this section) it doesn't warrant going through this section of cave.

Glad to fill you in on any more information as I spent loads of time digging out that connection through to MG and Hollywood bowl.

(y)
 

tdobson

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Thanks Jon!

via a gour pool which has to be pumped even in seriously dry weather.

This is the cosmic juice extractor sump somewhere near the Great aven? Very happy to avoid it!  ;)

(Namread sump is another challenge in that largely pointless roundtrip right?)

At risk of depriving myself of the thrill of the exploration... is there anything in Batham gate or la Marseille that I might enjoy seeing?

Got quite a lot of esoteric bits of Bagshawe on my ticklist... I probably could post a huge list of questions sometime and you and SamT could answer them!
 

JonP

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The round trip via Namraed is a good trip but Namraed rarely opens up. I've done it a few times and that top passage in Bagshawe is a big passage but other than that and the fact that it's rarely visited it could be anywhere. Hollywood bowl is a cool chamber again on some more dodgy rigging (old bolts) I'd say the fact that you have to go all the way around to visit it now makes it more of a daunting prospect but worth the effort in my eyes. The junction where Batham Gate heads off too is quite big with a blind aven (Newhall Aven?) again big bit of cave.

If you head the opposite way at the top of Madame Guillotine there are nicer formations and a good section of stomping walking passage. The previous limit is very well decorated and the digging that went on at the sharp end is incredible from a diggers perspective. There's a drystone wall of calcite which Ben Bentham removed from a restriction back in the early 90's by far the most impressive part up there in my eyes!

Also the dig at the end has to be one of the most promising leads in Derbyshire.
 
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