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Mark said:Pete K said:Be good for the next batch but ?100 of DCA red tape is arriving with me tomorrow!
I thought the DCA red tape was developed over many years, I didn't' know you had to buy it in
Mark said:Pete K said:Be good for the next batch but ?100 of DCA red tape is arriving with me tomorrow!
I thought the DCA red tape was developed over many years, I didn't' know you had to buy it in
mmilner said:bograt said:Suspect Lecluse is refering to electric fencing 'wire';
Can't get the link to work, but Google " Rutland Electric Fencing" for an example.
Ta for that, had a quick look, yes I think that will be the stuff. Will look into it in more detail next week...
Leclused said:mmilner said:bograt said:Suspect Lecluse is refering to electric fencing 'wire';
Can't get the link to work, but Google " Rutland Electric Fencing" for an example.
Ta for that, had a quick look, yes I think that will be the stuff. Will look into it in more detail next week...
Sorry for the delay. I'm on holiday in Tenerife for the moment. The wire we use is the wiring farmers use to protect their live stock.
Cap'n Chris said:It would be very useful to know how long it has been in the cave and whether it shows any signs of degrading with age/humidity/temperature etc., as these are factors we know little about in the UK only having recently commenced using electric fence tape for conservation route marking.
Cap'n Chris said:It would be very useful to know how long it has been in the cave and whether it shows any signs of degrading with age/humidity/temperature etc., as these are factors we know little about in the UK only having recently commenced using electric fence tape for conservation route marking.
The Old Ruminator said:The fencing tape comes in two widths as far as I know. 10mm and 20mm. The 10mm has a 60 kilo breaking strain. Some varieties are multicoloured with orange braiding. The normal orange tape we have used is re easily replaced. Some are kept in the cave. Therefore no more broken tapes.
10mm looks more like a band and is a bit wide (imho) The fencing wire we use is like rope and is 3mm in diameter. See for an example the photo set in my first post in this topic. There you can see the roll with inthis case white wires. Roughly halfway the photo set😄
The Old Ruminator said:....When Shatter Cave was discovered the first person into Pillar Chamber walked right across the sparkling crystal floor. His muddy footprints are still there 45 years later....
Mark said:I suspect in Mendip there would be great pleasure in seeing Jrat's footprints somewhere.
sourceBelfry Bulletin No 527 said:We all then continued downstream, Mike exploring a muddy phreatic tube on the left which soon ended in a static sump. Just beyond this I scrambled down into a lower canal passage ending in a calcite choke. The main passage continued overhead and this was where Julie had stopped due to a large hole in the floor, which she considered needed protection to surmount. Finding myself in the lead, and blessed with longer legs, I got the job of traversing over the c.6m pit down to the lower passage. This got me to another c.6m drop beyond where an almost vertical flowstone cascade was free-climbed down into a high canal passage with the usual masses of pretties. Further along the continuing bore tube a couple of descending tubes on the left intersected sections of a lower, muddy and relatively small stream passage with a trickle of water. ..... My recollection of how far I followed the main phreatic tunnel are blurred by the adrenalin rush of the moment but I realised I was alone and in someone elses cave so I left a marker and returned to the others. About 3-400m was found in this series today and it was left wide open and 3-4m in diameter for Julie and a different team to return next day.
Readers may be amused if they visit Grebe Swallet to see an obscured miner's bootprint labelled as 'miner's bootprint overlain by footprint of conservation officer"Mark said:The Old Ruminator said:....When Shatter Cave was discovered the first person into Pillar Chamber walked right across the sparkling crystal floor. His muddy footprints are still there 45 years later....
I think footprints are part of the story of the cave, if footprints could be found that were proved to belong to Martel or Casteret or some other notable explorer they would be preserved and protected.
I can think of places in the Peaks where few people have been, where there are footprints of people no longer with us PB, Buster, Keith Joule and others. and I would get pleasure out of seeing those
I suspect in Mendip there would be great pleasure in seeing Jrat's footprints somewhere.
And just to put thing into perspective.
ianball11 said:I really appreciate taping, it goes a long way to stopping me being the cause of terrible damage, and personally tape in a photo doesn't bother me.