Mrs Trellis
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Boris speaks to the nation in patois/patwa :-
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fII1zsQeTTY
Now clear mon?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fII1zsQeTTY
Now clear mon?
Covid 19
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Mrs Trellis
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Home baking during the lockdown:-
https://twitter.com/i/status/1260117998821572609
https://twitter.com/i/status/1260117998821572609
tony from suffolk
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Apparently, we can?t visit relatives? homes but estate agents can buy and sell houses. So I?ve put my house on the market and the kids are coming for a viewing at 4.30 pm.
Mrs Trellis
Well-known member
Out of the mouths of babes etc................
https://twitter.com/i/status/1260255585565585411
https://twitter.com/i/status/1260255585565585411
ttxela2
Active member
It is all utter b*llocks...
Watching the news last night the reporter followed a woman who was meeting another friend social distancing in the park, turned out the friend had a baby with her, I turned to Mrs T and said "surely that's 3 people meeting" the camera then panned out to show the first woman was also pushing a pram, now we were up to four people meeting, plus reporter, plus, presumably, cameraman. So we now had a gathering of at least 6 people from 3 households. The reporter and cameraman were working in the park though so therefore immune from catching or passing on the virus. Later on a similar report showed a mother and daughter meeting, the daughter stated she had left her baby at home so as not to break the two person rule...
My eldest daughter (who doesn't live with us) owns and runs her own gym. If we were to meet her and her partner in the park we would be breaking the rules and should have chosen to meet only one. If we go to the gym to do maintenance work on the building whilst it is closed we are working and therefore fine to all be there together (but spaced apart) even though we are indoors.....
Watching the news last night the reporter followed a woman who was meeting another friend social distancing in the park, turned out the friend had a baby with her, I turned to Mrs T and said "surely that's 3 people meeting" the camera then panned out to show the first woman was also pushing a pram, now we were up to four people meeting, plus reporter, plus, presumably, cameraman. So we now had a gathering of at least 6 people from 3 households. The reporter and cameraman were working in the park though so therefore immune from catching or passing on the virus. Later on a similar report showed a mother and daughter meeting, the daughter stated she had left her baby at home so as not to break the two person rule...
My eldest daughter (who doesn't live with us) owns and runs her own gym. If we were to meet her and her partner in the park we would be breaking the rules and should have chosen to meet only one. If we go to the gym to do maintenance work on the building whilst it is closed we are working and therefore fine to all be there together (but spaced apart) even though we are indoors.....
PeteHall
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ttxela2 said:
You aren't wrong there.
They want everyone to maintain social distancing, but are proposing to send reception year kids back to school. I can see this working really well, not...
Maybe need some of these:
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Alex
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Afraid to say I do see the logic with young kids going back...
The issue with the young kids is for those with shitty parents those kids are missing out on their basic life skills, and will be really behind in life if they cannot go to school. Perhaps they can identify who are the shitty parents and only send there kids to school but how would they do that? So I see the logic with this one, however as the older kids are not at school they can just have 3 to 4 to a classroom and use most of the building?
The issue with the young kids is for those with shitty parents those kids are missing out on their basic life skills, and will be really behind in life if they cannot go to school. Perhaps they can identify who are the shitty parents and only send there kids to school but how would they do that? So I see the logic with this one, however as the older kids are not at school they can just have 3 to 4 to a classroom and use most of the building?
PeteHall
Moderator
If I've followed thing correctly, "vulnerable" kids, ie, those from shitty families, have been allowed to stay at school anyway, just like key workers kids.
Small class size is one thing, but reception year kids don't sit at a desk and do work, they play, with a bit of a learning focus. Older kids are much easier to manage...
Small class size is one thing, but reception year kids don't sit at a desk and do work, they play, with a bit of a learning focus. Older kids are much easier to manage...
pwhole
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I have a friend who is a teacher at a shitty school where most of the parents are shitty. In mitigation, this is in a former mining village in South Yorkshire with serious deprivation and very low employment (for obvious reasons). The school is basically the most unified and organised social structure in the entire village (a bit like a 'hospital for the younger brain'), and although working from home, my friend has been bombarded with calls from parents asking what they should do with their kids - or, that their kids have absconded again and they don't know where they are.
My friend can't do anything to help directly, but spends half her day on the phone talking to social services or the police whilst they try and track the absconded kids or deal with another family 'situation' at their homes. Or dashing into school to sort out another incident from the kids who are in there currently, whilst trying to stay safe. Her partner who teaches at a special needs school is having an equally bad time as some of those kids have been sent home, and their parents genuinely cannot cope, so try to bring them back in again.
Under 'normal' circumstances this place was a bit of a nightmare - now with Covid-19 it's just collapsing totally. Improving the school, great as that would be, will not really fix this village - the damage was done 30 years ago and this is the generational result of poor education multiplied by the removal of the only practical employment that once mitigated (and utilised) the poor education. I don't know if sending the kids back to school yet will help here - they'll be better supervised, but the infection rates could soar, and take out half the teaching staff, who generally shoulder far more of the parental responsibilities than the parents do.
Some parts of this country are really shitty
My friend can't do anything to help directly, but spends half her day on the phone talking to social services or the police whilst they try and track the absconded kids or deal with another family 'situation' at their homes. Or dashing into school to sort out another incident from the kids who are in there currently, whilst trying to stay safe. Her partner who teaches at a special needs school is having an equally bad time as some of those kids have been sent home, and their parents genuinely cannot cope, so try to bring them back in again.
Under 'normal' circumstances this place was a bit of a nightmare - now with Covid-19 it's just collapsing totally. Improving the school, great as that would be, will not really fix this village - the damage was done 30 years ago and this is the generational result of poor education multiplied by the removal of the only practical employment that once mitigated (and utilised) the poor education. I don't know if sending the kids back to school yet will help here - they'll be better supervised, but the infection rates could soar, and take out half the teaching staff, who generally shoulder far more of the parental responsibilities than the parents do.
Some parts of this country are really shitty
pwhole
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Another useful article on a 'second wave', though with some rather ominous repercussions for 'mass gatherings'. I suppose one can only guess at present for what qualifies as mass gatherings in caving terms - or caving huts. Not on the scale of a football match, certainly, but significant. Of course, if testing can be implemented quickly, much of this can be managed more quickly:
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/may/19/second-coronavirus-wave-r-number-uk-test-and-trace-mass-gatherings-travel
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/may/19/second-coronavirus-wave-r-number-uk-test-and-trace-mass-gatherings-travel
One of my sisters is a teacher whose main job these days is trying to keep kids in school, hunting them down etc. This as an alternative to exclusion which (it was belatedly realised) doesn?t exactly help the local community.pwhole said:
This is Wiltshire, which the innocent amongst you would ask ?how can it be that bad?. Never very sure what the excuse was. If you want weird, the inner heart of places like Westbury and Trowbridge are very odd, and have been a very long time. Banjos isn?t in it.
pwhole
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My friend has just come out of two days of videoconferenced meetings with the unions and other negotiators, and it's still unclear what the hell they're going to do. The town needs a fully-functioning school but they're nowhere near able to provide one safely. And in the meantime the chaos grows. As to the wider point about the 'hidden others', they have always been there and I believe the country has always chosen to ignore the problem. It's only now their employment has been removed we can see what they are. I grew up in Rotherham, not the worst place to live in many ways - it's physically lovely, and has lots of nature - but it's always had its dark side spiritually, and was the main reason I legged it to Uni at the earliest possible opportunity. Although only to Sheffield! I got some grief for going to Uni from some friends, but only in the sense I was leaving them behind - which was true.
Thankfully, teachers, medical staff, councils and the police have far more brains and levels of social integration in these situations than the government does, so it's imperative that improvements are driven from the bottom up by improving and educating the current young generations - whilst somehow reassuring their ruined parents that the 'new ways' are better and to stop ruining their children! It's a tough balancing act.
But my street is slowly filling with an ever-increasing roster of hopeless cases, staggering around begging all day - I have no idea if they're genuinely homeless, as they seem to survive far too long for that - but they are totally screwed, can't walk or talk properly and largely look like characters from a Hogarth sketch. Scumbags in baseball caps are now attending to them from cheap sports cars. Walking out of my flat every day is profoundly depressing - this really shouldn't be happening in a country as wealthy and 'intelligent' as this. Of course, it's not happening on the wealthier streets, as is always the case, even though arguably there's more money to be made there than here.
Thankfully, teachers, medical staff, councils and the police have far more brains and levels of social integration in these situations than the government does, so it's imperative that improvements are driven from the bottom up by improving and educating the current young generations - whilst somehow reassuring their ruined parents that the 'new ways' are better and to stop ruining their children! It's a tough balancing act.
But my street is slowly filling with an ever-increasing roster of hopeless cases, staggering around begging all day - I have no idea if they're genuinely homeless, as they seem to survive far too long for that - but they are totally screwed, can't walk or talk properly and largely look like characters from a Hogarth sketch. Scumbags in baseball caps are now attending to them from cheap sports cars. Walking out of my flat every day is profoundly depressing - this really shouldn't be happening in a country as wealthy and 'intelligent' as this. Of course, it's not happening on the wealthier streets, as is always the case, even though arguably there's more money to be made there than here.
Boy Engineer
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Very well put Phil. I think one of the challenges will be the degree to which ?clapping for carers? translates into action to address the gross inequalities that exist, in a local, national and international setting. Talk of levelling up may stop, once the ?haves? realise that there isn?t enough pie, or planet, to go around at current levels of acquisitiveness. I?m lucky to be living in a leafy suburban bubble and I appreciate my experience may not be representative, but I?m heartened by the many acts of kindness I?ve seen from various ?networks?, often for those in less well advantaged communities. I know that there is a groundswell within these groups to develop those support structures after this thing ends.
droid
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My feeling is that when this is 'over' (i.e. some semblance of normality is restored) things will revert to the pre Covid situation.
The 'hero' NHS and carers will be treated just as badly as previously and any tanking of the economy due to Brexit will be blamed on Covid.
Always was an optimist....
The 'hero' NHS and carers will be treated just as badly as previously and any tanking of the economy due to Brexit will be blamed on Covid.
Always was an optimist....
