Covid 19

Speleofish

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Warning! What follows may be heavy going - I apologise in advance.

Heraldopenaccess (the publisher of the paper referenced by pwhole) is regarded as a possible predatory publisher (see Yale University Library's guidelines which aim to direct their staff away from potentially dodgy journals).

The paper would never have got through the editorial process in a reputable publication and should be viewed sceptically, even if you overlook the poor grammar and the absence of proof-reading. Much of the science quoted is reasonably robust and is sourced from mainstream journals but has limited relevance to the supposed subject of the paper. Rather, it looks as if the authors have taken every biological property of melatonin that might impact on the inflammatory cascade and cut and pasted them to produce a review that makes melatonin look like a possible wonder-drug. The authors make several assertions which are not justified by the evidence they quote. For example:

"One of the reasons which contribute to such effect, at least partially, is the reduced level of melatonin in elderly people. The study presented in [19], shows that level of melatonin is quite different in young (age 26 +/-2?years) and elderly (84 +/-20?years) people. The elderly people have 3.5 times less melatonin during the day but 7.5 times less during the night. Such effect obviously contributes to general deterioration of cognitive, psychological and social functioning as well as by sleep disturbances, but primarily to immune function [4]."

It's perfectly possible that reduced melatonin levels in the elderly contribute to their vulnerability but the reality is much more complex. Even if low melatonin levels are important, there is no evidence that giving supplements will do any good. The medical literature is full of highly embarrassing studies where hormone supplements in people whose levels were low have done  no good or even caused serious harm (google growth hormone trials in critical care).

The worst bit is the conclusion. Having spent a large amount of time building up melatonin as a powerful biological agent, the authors produce an anecdote to justify using melatonin to treat Covid: "One of the authors (RR) is a physician-general practitioner. Since the beginning of the pandemic, more than 80 of his patients between 23 years old and 86 years old were positively diagnosed with COVID-19 and suffered various severity of the disease. As a physician, RR has prescribed melatonin to his patients with COVID-19 based on the safety data and the efficacy evidence presented in this review. All the patients that were treated by melatonin did well and completely recovered".

They then conclude: "At present time while the world is getting infected and fighting with the COVID-19, we need a treatment that is safe and easily available and very inexpensive. Melatonin is an excellent choice, as it can act both for prevention and as an adjunct therapy against COVID-19 disease".

During the pandemic there have been a number of papers like this that make great claims for a variety of drugs (eg hydroxychloroquine) which have been shown to be completely useless and have caused harm by diverting attention away from things that are effective. This doesn't mean melatonin may not work (though I am very sceptical). However, before we use it generally, someone needs to perform a properly blinded, randomised trial. This isn't it.

Finally, I'm curious to know whether Carrier Therapeutics (the employer of the third author) make melatonin. In a reputable journal, all authors should declare their competing interests. There is no mention of interests here which makes me suspicious. I've tried to find out what Carrier produce but the information doesn't seem to be available.
 

pwhole

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I'm glad for the feedback, thanks - I wasn't aware of the publisher's reputation. But the grammar was worrying me, hence my comment about the proof-reading - I noticed 'Buts is' insted of 'Bats are' on the first skim-read, which did seem a bit odd, given it should have been peer-reviewed, and I do tend to pick up grammar errors generally when I do it, so they shouldn't have missed it.

Part of the reason I posted it was because a relative who hasn't been jabbed for health reasons has also recently been prescribed melatonin by their doctor as an immunity-booster and as they wake up at 4am every day, so I'd been doing a bit of searching and found this. I'll hopefully get more feedback from them later this week on what exactly it's all for. I'm not convinced myself on the Covid theory, though it certainly works for me for the headaches and sleep-deprivation. And if they do have commercial interests then they definitely should be declaring them. But thanks for posting this - it's very useful.
 

pwhole

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Well they're certainly only advocating it as a vaccine booster, rather than a replacement, which was my initial concern.

I know there have been some experiments taking old folks in care outside in winter and essentially forcing them to exercise in bright sunshine, followed by strict light regimens indoors - very bright for activity and total blackness for sleep, and there were some very positive results in overall health, but I guess that's not suprising given that's what we were designed to do. Staying indoors all the time definitely isn't healthy, especially with no exercise. One of my friends recently died, essentially from self-neglect, due to their reclusive approach to Covid.

My cluster headache season is now, generally beginning from when the clocks change - normally two a day until 21st December (afternoon and the middle of the night), and then they stop. I've tried a variety of things over the years, but forcing myself to get up early for maximum daylight seems to be the best treatment, even if I don't need to - it's getting tired at the other end of the day that's always been the problem! I just don't get tired, and can happily stay up for 20 hours without even yawning. I regularly used to go straight through in summer and miss a night. So melatonin's been very useful in helping me keep the body clock right, and last year was the first in 25 years I didn't have one cluster headache - and so far so good this year. I hardly ever get colds either, even when everyone else does, but I accept that's not exactly proof of anything.
 

Speleofish

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Looking at this article got me interested in the issue of predatory publishing. It's been a growing problem in the scientific world for some years. Getting published is essential for a young scientist to make progress and a list of publications on the back of your cv boosts your employability. If you're ambitious but your research is mediocre, you may struggle to get it published in a mainstream journal. Predatory publishers will take your paper without question for a fee (often a remarkably large one) and will rarely amend, edit or peer-review your manuscript. Consequently, they allow the publication of poor research and may disseminate false or misleading information.

So long as you're aware of the problem, and do a little due diligence, it's fairly easy to spot an article that may come from a  predatory publisher. If their articles were only read by the scientific community, you could argue that they're relatively harmless (apart from the waste of time and money). However, most of their articles are freely available online so will come up (often prominently) in search results by non-scientists..

Worse than poor quality research, some of these articles have agendas - financial, political or malicious. A lot of dodgy alternative medicine gets published in this way and antivaxxers produce articles that sound as if they come from authoritative sources.

If you want to check whether a journal is likely to be legit, you can search Beall's list (compiled by the librarian at the University of Colorado). This is open access but stopped adding titles to it's list in 2017 after a number of complaints (though I think it has re-started). Alternatively, look on the website of the Directory of Open Access Journals (DOAJ.org) which keeps an up to date list of reputable on-line publications. However, you have to have been in business for at least 12 months to get listed).
 
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