Croesor/Rhoysdd through trip that doesnt involve the two abseils.

[Stevefromleicester]

Anyone help me ?
I was in Croesor last week to do the through trip . Up the incline to the grille with the widened bar. Just before this turn right and first not very nice traverse around wall. Then uphill a bit to teach the zipline over the ventilation shaft(where theres a frayed black abseil rope that takes you back down to the other side of the grille to avoid doing the first wall traverse) sprinkling of water down this shaft. Anyway over this zipline then another two (one of which involves reaching an orange nylon and metal ladder then climbing up it).
Then through a passage to a chamber with a single timber bridge with a laminated warning sign on it and a zipline directly over it. The way on appeared to be uphill following a line but this just lead to a short tunnel and abseil down back to the chamber with the bridge.
So where is the way on ?
I could see a passage high up in corner of chamber with rusty chain part hanging down and some iron bars hammered into rock but no traverse of safety lines.
Anyone who has done this route please explain it to me as we gave up and then reversed all the ziplines on the way out.
We were on the right route at the single bridge with laminated warning sign, what did we miss !!
Cheers
Steve Joyce

 

[bigsafety]

Turn left at the timber bridge after the descent, and across a Tyrolean to an edge with very loose rock. Then across a short traverse to the left of that leading to another descent which will drop you into the chamber with the zipline and wire traverse thingy. Continue through trip as you usually would.

 

[Stevefromleicester]

Turn left at the timber bridge after the descent, and across a Tyrolean to an edge with very loose rock. Then across a short traverse to the left of that leading to another descent which will drop you into the chamber with the zipline and wire traverse thingy. Continue through trip as you usually would.

Thanks for that. I am still not quite sure.
From the single beam bridge with laminated sign I ziplined directly over that to a short tunnel. Which way from there ??

 

[Stones]

Once over the zip with the single beam you will come to another zip line, once over this zip you will abseil down. Then you will pick up the traditional route at abseil 2 (I think)

 

[zzzzzzed]

Thanks for that. I am still not quite sure.
From the single beam bridge with laminated sign I ziplined directly over that to a short tunnel. Which way from there ??

I think that's wrong. You should not cross the beam with the warning sign but go in the opposite direction across another zip line. Then traverse left, abseil and you arrive back on the original route. One more abseil then takes you to the original zip line across the pool.

 

[Stevefromleicester]

Three different answers to

I think that's wrong. You should not cross the beam with the warning sign but go in the opposite direction across another zip line. Then traverse left, abseil and you arrive back on the original route. One more abseil then takes you to the original zip line across the pool.

Thank you for your help. Think Ive got it now. On seeing the zipline over the single beam bridge with the laminated sign (heading in the right direction for Rhoyssdd)
I assumed it must be the way on. We should have looked around at that level for another way on. Still we did some bits Ive never done before and one of them we did twice !!
Ive done the old twin abseil route before in the days when there were no wire bridges or ziplines just a horrible double beam bridge(with nails sticking up) . No guideline on the swim over the lake(done in chest waders and an inflated landrover innertube) first one over dragged a bit of polypropylene rope with them so we could pull the innertube back.
So we were really looking forward to seeing the changes. Will go back later in the year.

 

[Stevefromleicester]

Turn left at the timber bridge after the descent, and across a Tyrolean to an edge with very loose rock. Then across a short traverse to the left of that leading to another descent which will drop you into the chamber with the zipline and wire traverse thingy. Continue through trip as you usually would.

So dont go over the single beam bridge with the warning sign and zipline over it ???

 

[zzzzzzed]

So dont go over the single beam bridge with the warning sign and zipline over it ???

Correct. Turn round and there's another zip line.

 

[Stevefromleicester]

Thank you .

 

[Stevefromleicester]

Thank you .on the way back we bypassed the single beam and zipline by climbing up to a tunnel then down the other side. Had we reversed the zipline we would have seen the way on . Never mind !

 

[Guido]

Anyone help me ?
I was in Croesor last week to do the through trip . Up the incline to the grille with the widened bar. Just before this turn right and first not very nice traverse around wall. Then uphill a bit to teach the zipline over the ventilation shaft(where theres a frayed black abseil rope that takes you back down to the other side of the grille to avoid doing the first wall traverse) sprinkling of water down this shaft. Anyway over this zipline then another two (one of which involves reaching an orange nylon and metal ladder then climbing up it).
Then through a passage to a chamber with a single timber bridge with a laminated warning sign on it and a zipline directly over it. The way on appeared to be uphill following a line but this just lead to a short tunnel and abseil down back to the chamber with the bridge.
So where is the way on ?
I could see a passage high up in corner of chamber with rusty chain part hanging down and some iron bars hammered into rock but no traverse of safety lines.
Anyone who has done this route please explain it to me as we gave up and then reversed all the ziplines on the way out.
We were on the right route at the single bridge with laminated warning sign, what did we miss !!
Cheers
Steve Joyce

 

[Guido]

We counted three zips (metal) after the rope across the ventilation shaft. The third had the ladder at the end. After the zip near the bridge (but opposite direction to the bridge with the warning sign) you can do two (?) abs and get to near the bottom of the second ab of the std route. Or you can traverse around after the first and join at the top of the second ab on the regular route. The first option is an easier ascent if you need to retreat rather than all the way up the 2nd ab.

Thanks to who rigged that variant very entertaining.

 

[cavemanmike]

Thanks to who rigged that variant very entertaining.

That will be speedy caver 😉😉