Alkapton said:....I think it is likely I'll shortly leave the pitch rigged, sort of semi permanently
graham said:Will you guarantee the safety of this fixed aid?
Les W said:Surely any un-guaranteed aid was placed by "persons unknown" :doubt:
Alkapton said:Can I guarantee its safety? Once I take my eyes off it no. Just decent rope on mallon, if I am happy to use it then its safe.
Alkapton said:Why do it? i) I love pitches but I hate dragging ropes. ii) I know a great many ropes going to waste and unused. iii) Having read a description of this pitch I'm not certain I can/dare rig it, de-rigging more scary than rigging so brown pants are inevitable. iv) I have a feeling without having looked at Darling rifts I'll prefer coming out that way than the bypass.
Alkapton said:ummmm,
What I don't understand (I have not yet seen Big Bang so going on description - but this is true of other pitches) is why people who install hangers do not put a hanger in a nice safe unscarey place so one can secure oneself to a rope before one is forced into leaning too far out over a chasm of certain death. I'm not scared of heights as such but I'm petrifiied of edges It is possible for me to freeze and backing off such a place takes a long time which is very unpleasant.
Alkapton said:ummmm,
I addmitt I've probably got strange ideas in my head (even for a caver) but thats mostly because I have to figure this stuff out on me own, I'm lazy and probably I'll be in the cave a lot so it makes sense to me.
Alkapton said:ii) I know a great many ropes going to waste and unused..
Alkapton said:What I don't understand (I have not yet seen Big Bang so going on description - but this is true of other pitches) is why people who install hangers do not put a hanger in a nice safe unscarey place so one can secure oneself to a rope before one is forced into leaning too far out over a chasm of certain death.
Alkapton said:Having read a description of this pitch I'm not certain I can/dare rig it, de-rigging more scarey than rigging so brown pants are inevitable.
robjones said:That because bods who rig pitches are all 6'6" and those of us who come after them are a foot shorter!![]()