"Emergency Climbing Rope"

[Leclused]

I saw this kit on the petzl webiste

Rad System

It's a rescue kit for skiers.

RAD SYSTEM
A complete ultra-lightweight and compact kit with specific cord, designed for skiers doing crevasse rescue, rappelling, or roping up on a glacier to get out of a crevasse zone

 

[Cantclimbtom]

What a good way to use the 50m of 9mm climbing rope I have. Unused. Lived in the dark and dry all its life. Trouble is, it was new in 1993. Hmmmm kids swing I think.

If you are near Sheffield one option is https://madebyscavenger.com/pages/climbing-gear-collection-points

 

[JAshley73]

I saw this kit on the petzl webiste

Rad System

It's a rescue kit for skiers.

RAD SYSTEM
A complete ultra-lightweight and compact kit with specific cord, designed for skiers doing crevasse rescue, rappelling, or roping up on a glacier to get out of a crevasse zone

Neat little kit. $420 USD however... Best I can tell, saves about $100 versus buying all those pieces individually. Still though, that 6mm RAD-line is $2.45 per foot...

 

[Cantclimbtom]

Apart from the cost, RAD line might not be suitable for caving anyway as you are very restricted on which rappel/abseil devices, belay devices and ascenders are compatible with it.

Rescue And Descent for skiing over a "wet" glacier
Beal make a very similar product called a "Backup Line" that's a lot cheaper, available in the US from https://hownot2.com/products/back-up-line but again issues with device compatibility and it's hyperstatic

To quote from the video "Show me a person who would rappel on this 5mm rope who wouldn't have a tight sphincter"

 

[JAshley73]

What a good way to use the 50m of 9mm climbing rope I have. Unused. Lived in the dark and dry all its life. Trouble is, it was new in 1993. Hmmmm kids swing I think.

I think I'd trust it more in the cave pack, then being in the sun & rain on a kid's swing...

You could always break-test a sample, to see...




Neat videos of break-testing some old caving rope. (Not sure if you all have anything like our PMI 11mm pit-rope, but 10/10 recommend NOT using this stuff for alpine-SRT)


Start at 5:45 if you want to skip to the break-test.

Start at 3:50 for the rope break-test.

 

[Cantclimbtom]

Even better, didn't hownot2 break some old mine rope sent by some contributors on this thread? You know who you are... post the link please

 

[JAshley73]

Apart from the cost, RAD line might not be suitable for caving anyway as you are very restricted on which rappel/abseil devices, belay devices and ascenders are compatible with it.

Rescue And Descent for skiing over a "wet" glacier
Beal make a very similar product called a "Backup Line" that's a lot cheaper, available in the US from https://hownot2.com/products/back-up-line but again issues with device compatibility and it's hyperstatic

To quote from the video "Show me a person who would rappel on this 5mm rope who wouldn't have a tight sphincter"

I watched that video the other day. Pretty neat. I could see using it in an emergency "Wouldn't it be nice if..." kit for the odd situation. But I would never "plan" on using that for any kind of main piece of kit.

Maybe useful as a double-strand, though I don't know what kind of rappel-device would be suitable for it...? Not sure if a Munter/Italian hitch works will with double strands/ropes.

 

[mattsccm]

Italian is fine with doubles in my experience although only with climbing ropes.

 

[mattsccm]

In the interests of "science" I did a test on my 30+ year old, never seen the day light 9mm climbing rope. Cut metres off the end. Figure 8 knot in each end a a whopping big steel shackle to join the to bars of my Land Rover Defender and my VW Camper. Back the Landy up close and dropped the clutch with lots of throttle. Backed off and checked the rope. Longer now! and a touch thinner but apart from some very tight knots no actual visible damage. Not even gone stiff. Second go and all that happened is that the van moved! No idea of the force involved but I reckon it would do as a security/top rope .
I have used 11mm climbing ropes to recover stuck 4WDs before and have even broken one. (They are long and cheap as they are retired from their principle purpose) That was a very mired down long wheel base Jap SUV being recovered by my Lada Niva. The rope stretched like an elastic band before snapping and either side of the break was rigid for at least a yard.