Giant's Hole Payment Box Vandalism
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ronaldjprice
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As it is the Farmer/landowner is attracting thieves & vandals, not the types you would want in your garden I remember my local farmer removing these types with a shotgun.
Perhaps a payment system whereby we paid in a local shop/pub/cave and gaind a pay & display ticket.
Ron
Perhaps a payment system whereby we paid in a local shop/pub/cave and gaind a pay & display ticket.
Ron
shotlighter
Active member
Is that what they make baseball bats from then?Brains said:for prolonged dampness elm is best
ronaldjprice
New member
Yep thats what makes em bounce
The new payment box at Giants, the postbox cemented into the wall, may last a little longer this time we hope.
Best if you pay by cheque, payable to Peakshill Farm. Then if the b*****s vandalise the box they will not be able to get hold of any useable cash.
Stake-out sounds a nice idea though.
Best if you pay by cheque, payable to Peakshill Farm. Then if the b*****s vandalise the box they will not be able to get hold of any useable cash.
Stake-out sounds a nice idea though.
SamT
Moderator
I still stand by my original post on the subject, If we are going to keep putting money in a box in the middle of nowhere, it will continue to get broken into / nicked. No matter how strong it is. They'll always have a go.
I know when there where repeated car break ins at Stanage Plantation car park, and at Curbar Gap car park, the authories set up a little sting operation with hidden cameras.
As the breakins where almost daily, it didnt take long to capture the culprits in film.
Problem here is that its every 2 or 3 months, so it could be a while.
Still - Im sure its not beyond some of the technical boffins on here to come up with a little camera that could be buried in one of the walls near by pointing at the moneybox. Linked to a sensor in the box, (motion sensor. microswitch or somesort). door comes off, camera turns on. bingo.
I know when there where repeated car break ins at Stanage Plantation car park, and at Curbar Gap car park, the authories set up a little sting operation with hidden cameras.
As the breakins where almost daily, it didnt take long to capture the culprits in film.
Problem here is that its every 2 or 3 months, so it could be a while.
Still - Im sure its not beyond some of the technical boffins on here to come up with a little camera that could be buried in one of the walls near by pointing at the moneybox. Linked to a sensor in the box, (motion sensor. microswitch or somesort). door comes off, camera turns on. bingo.
Cave_Troll
Active member
a better option would be a solid state recorder, that when the switch is triggered, saves the last 5mins and the next 5 mins.
If you just record when its tripped, you'll miss their faces and reg number while their hooking the chains up to the car.
If you just record when its tripped, you'll miss their faces and reg number while their hooking the chains up to the car.
ronaldjprice
New member
Has anyone heard the views or ideas of the land owner?
It would be a great loss to the caving community to lose access to Giants Hole and surely that must worry us if no satisfactory alternative is found.
Perhaps on line prepayment via Paypal or bank transfer could be another option.
Leaving bait out for the thieves will only attract others, although it might be a sporting prospect!
Ron
It would be a great loss to the caving community to lose access to Giants Hole and surely that must worry us if no satisfactory alternative is found.
Perhaps on line prepayment via Paypal or bank transfer could be another option.
Leaving bait out for the thieves will only attract others, although it might be a sporting prospect!
Ron
paul
Moderator
As I already said: cheques.
If you leave any high-tech gear to record incidents (who's going to pay for this anyway?) that will get nicked as well. Paying online, etc means the owner has no idea if anyone parked there has paid or not.
Once the thieves have broken in a few times more and got nothing for their troubles but a load of useless cheques (pay by cheque, ?3.00 per person, making cheques payable to Peakshill Farm) they'l soon give up.
If you leave any high-tech gear to record incidents (who's going to pay for this anyway?) that will get nicked as well. Paying online, etc means the owner has no idea if anyone parked there has paid or not.
Once the thieves have broken in a few times more and got nothing for their troubles but a load of useless cheques (pay by cheque, ?3.00 per person, making cheques payable to Peakshill Farm) they'l soon give up.
Elaine
Active member
The problem with cheques is that they are then a traceable (and therefore accountable for) source of income, and the farmer is not going to like that unless he currently declares every payment he gets in goodwill fees to the Inland Revenue.
Another thing to remember is bank charge a fee for paying cheques in.
Another thing to remember is bank charge a fee for paying cheques in.
paul
Moderator
Elaine said:
It's probably better to loose a bit of the income to the taxman than to regularly loose all of it....
I've paid in many, many cheques since having a bank accout for at least 25 years, both into personal bank accounts and also for other organisations' bank accounts (I'm a Treasurer, for my sins). I have NEVER paid a single penny to pay in a cheque!
Anyway, the official position as stated on the DCA website is : pay by cheque.
