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A_Northerner

A_Northerner

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2xw said:
If you think the UK is corrupt you have little experience of the world.
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Using positions of power to bung money to your mates is corrupt. Unless you're willing to accept some corruption as long as it isn't relatively bad? I expect a high standard of our politicians and so should you.
(although perhaps you've proved my earlier point - perhaps trumps behaviour has made other places look relatively acceptable!)
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Also if you rank that list by trajectory you'll see that the UK is amongst the highest in terms of increase in corruption...
 
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mikem

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It is an index of PERCEIVED corruption, partly based on surveys of the general public, rather than an absolute comparison, so trying to use it to monitor trends is questionable. I'd suggest the incompetence of those in charge was a greater factor than any actual increase in corruption.
 
pwhole

pwhole

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I suspect that it will also become more and more difficult to actually do real corruption in countries like ours, particularly as London property acquisition becomes more problematic and transactions become more digital. I hope that gradually society will realise that things will work far better if all that stored wealth is released back into the system and actually spent, rather than hoarded. After all, beyond going on holiday a lot, being fabulously wealthy isn't that much more exciting than being not wealthy at all. And it may even be less exciting in the long run, especially if you have to stay on holiday...
 
RobinGriffiths

RobinGriffiths

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How bizarre. At least if Domingo Cummingo goes as well, he can spend his time shooting pheasants on his father in law's estate at Chillingham Castle.

Speaking of which, his father in law, Sir Humphrey Wakefield is allegeded by the Daily Mail (steady!) to be a director of Admiral Public Relations, a firm hired by Kate Bingham - ('vaccine czar' apparantly), as consultants to the tune of ?670,000.

 
pwhole

pwhole

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Hilariously Peston tonight covered the story - ironically a couple of years ago Allegra Stratton would have presented the feature on the show - except she's now the subject of the feature, about her getting the new press job at No. 10, and triggering Lee Cain's resignation. Flipping to Newsnight, Kirsty Wark was then heard discussing her former Newsnight colleague, Allegra Stratton, with Polly Toynbee, former colleague at The Guardian of Allegra Stratton.

It's a rum do all right, but I'm sure it'll all be fixed by the morning. In fact, one good idea would be for Kayleigh McEnany and Allegra Stratton to swap jobs immediately, and see if a 'new approach' works at both ends. We could do with livening it up a bit.
 
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Fjell

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pwhole said:
Hilariously Peston tonight covered the story - ironically a couple of years ago Allegra Stratton would have presented the feature on the show - except she's now the subject of the feature, about her getting the new press job at No. 10, and triggering Lee Cain's resignation. Flipping to Newsnight, Kirsty Wark was then heard discussing her former Newsnight colleague, Allegra Stratton, with Polly Toynbee, former colleague at The Guardian of Allegra Stratton.

It's a rum do all right, but I'm sure it'll all be fixed by the morning. In fact, one good idea would be for Kayleigh McEnany and Allegra Stratton to swap jobs immediately, and see if a 'new approach' works at both ends. We could do with livening it up a bit.
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Allegra ?plucked from obscurity? Stratton is married to James Forsyth - who was Sunaks best man at his wedding and is his kids godfather. Them being at Winchester together.

It?s the British way. Is there an actor today in their 20?s you see whose parents weren?t in the business? I find it hilarious that the BBC has father and daughter in a major series in lead roles (His Dark Materials).
 
pwhole

pwhole

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The whole shitshow is one big glob of upper-middle-class privilege. None of them are especially talented, just loaded and well-connected. It was always thus. Apparently that very important government employee Carrie Symonds also objected to Lee Cain's promotion. Erm - right. Given her judgement must be called into serious question by her willingness to mix her DNA with one of the most revolting adult males on the planet, one wonders why they're so keen to mention this small but rather important detail.

Of course if this doesn't work out Allegra could always do one of the holiday-doc series where she walks around a Greek island telling us why olives are so important. "Next week, I find out why paragliding with wine could be the holiday pastime of the decade!"

And we still haven't heard from Ivanka...
 
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Fjell

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Symonds used to work with Cain. Not all sweetness and light it seems.

This is what happens in any company when people have been around too long. We used to move senior staff every four years somewhere else, usually a different country. You need to build loyalty to the brand, not to little cabals.

The UK?s biggest problem is it?s culture of managerial amateurism. Been around a very long time. It?s why if you look at a lot of big UK companies these days, so will see a remarkable percentage of non-British CEO?s. Multinationals in particular have no truck with it.
 
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Duck ditch

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One can only hope.
Perhaps I can ask a question I?ve been asking for 4 years now.  6 weeks left and I still don?t know.  Is the the Northern Ireland border in the Irish Sea or on land?
 
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mikem

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But has he been offered a job with better prospects (& thus deserting a sinking ship), or had a hissy fit because he hasn't got his way?

Well, NI is not currently leaving the union ...
 
Graigwen

Graigwen

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mikem said:
But has he been offered a job with better prospects (& thus deserting a sinking ship), or had a hissy fit because he hasn't got his way?

Well, NI is not currently leaving the union ...
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He returns in 2021 as chief advisor to PM Gove (once the Sunak problem has been sorted).

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