One really important question remains unanswered
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pwhole
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Well Marina Hyde turned in another classic - at 14.26pm too. Every paragraph is pure joy:
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/nov/13/dominic-cummings-barnard-castle-brexit
To put it in terms Cummings would reflexively understand: it?s special to see an English director of football lose the power struggle for once. Dom and the other guys whose names we?ve recently had to find out have only one speed: aggro. Furthermore, Boris Johnson?s Downing Street has been like one of those boys? schools where girls are only accepted in sixth form. They?re here now, however ? and I keep reading that a combination of Johnson?s fiancee, Carrie Symonds, his new press secretary, Allegra Stratton, and his policy chief, Munira Mirza, has done for the Vote Leave faction. Typical. God, I hate to see women ruining everything for this group of great mates. I always think of these guys like the Beatles. The Isis Beatles, obviously.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/nov/13/dominic-cummings-barnard-castle-brexit
To put it in terms Cummings would reflexively understand: it?s special to see an English director of football lose the power struggle for once. Dom and the other guys whose names we?ve recently had to find out have only one speed: aggro. Furthermore, Boris Johnson?s Downing Street has been like one of those boys? schools where girls are only accepted in sixth form. They?re here now, however ? and I keep reading that a combination of Johnson?s fiancee, Carrie Symonds, his new press secretary, Allegra Stratton, and his policy chief, Munira Mirza, has done for the Vote Leave faction. Typical. God, I hate to see women ruining everything for this group of great mates. I always think of these guys like the Beatles. The Isis Beatles, obviously.
Duck ditch
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I wonder what was in the cardboard box. I thought all his work was done on excel spreadsheets. Did he really live in the box room at no 10? Watch out barnard castle he?s on his way.
pwhole
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mikem said:
Exactly. I was only having this conversation (again) today. If Kamala Harris takes over the presidency during the term (as well she might), the world might start looking like a very different place. Macho autocrats are dropping out of fashion very, very quickly. Even Trump's on TV now acting all swish and conciliatory, and he even just hinted that he might not be president for much longer...
pwhole
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Of course Sarah Vine, wife of Michael Gove, also writes for the Fail. It's hard to get away from the conclusion that much journalism and politics are essentially the same thing. They're certainly both done by the same people. I'm not one for fake news, but it doesn't help any of their cases for being taken as 'trustworthy' when they're all so bloody incestuous.
ZombieCake
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Sooo, does anyone know who's the new real prime minister now that Cummings has gone? Or what the new dartboard of random policy will be?
ZombieCake
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Found this on YouTube. Haven't subscribed to Britbox as I already pay for BBC stuff, so don't know if there's more.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SCyIB35_sc4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SCyIB35_sc4
Robert Scott
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Oh dear, it seems so shambolic that I've passed over Gove as PM. Let's bring Jeremy Hunt back into the fold, apparently he once did a real job.
pwhole
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There's more thrills 'n spills tonight. I'm almost tempted to raise my recent fiver bet to a tenner, but I'd hate to be accused of influencing proceedings at such a sensitive stage. Though 'Friends of Allegra Stratton' already sounds like a campaign group, so maybe they're beyond influencers. Journalists eh? What can you do?
But still no mention of caving. Maybe they'll get round to us by Monday
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/nov/14/attacks-by-pms-ousted-aide-left-new-press-chief-in-tears
The woman appointed by Boris Johnson to lead his daily press operations was left in tears on Saturday after she claimed to have been the subject of negative briefings by a former No 10 official who resigned last week and made a dramatic exit from Downing Street. In an extraordinary escalation of feuding involving new and departing aides to Johnson, friends of Allegra Stratton, the new press secretary to the prime minister, said she had been ?in tears all morning? as a result of what she believed were critical briefings by Johnson?s former director of communications, Lee Cain.
Stratton, who will be the public face of the government, believes Cain told numerous journalists over the previous 24 hours that she was not the first choice for the job and had not been top of the list of a panel chosen to make the high-profile appointment. Cain is a close ally of Dominic Cummings, Johnson?s former closest adviser, who also resigned last week and was asked to leave on Friday.
But still no mention of caving. Maybe they'll get round to us by Monday
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/nov/14/attacks-by-pms-ousted-aide-left-new-press-chief-in-tears
The woman appointed by Boris Johnson to lead his daily press operations was left in tears on Saturday after she claimed to have been the subject of negative briefings by a former No 10 official who resigned last week and made a dramatic exit from Downing Street. In an extraordinary escalation of feuding involving new and departing aides to Johnson, friends of Allegra Stratton, the new press secretary to the prime minister, said she had been ?in tears all morning? as a result of what she believed were critical briefings by Johnson?s former director of communications, Lee Cain.
Stratton, who will be the public face of the government, believes Cain told numerous journalists over the previous 24 hours that she was not the first choice for the job and had not been top of the list of a panel chosen to make the high-profile appointment. Cain is a close ally of Dominic Cummings, Johnson?s former closest adviser, who also resigned last week and was asked to leave on Friday.
These people are all hired help and thus thoroughly expendable, regardless of what the media fantasise about.
It?s people like Gove the Undead who never go away, courtesy of the electorate. And he is the one most likely to have an impact on things like cave access in the future. Lots of stuff going on in the background.
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/gove-unveils-new-covenants-to-protect-nature
It?s people like Gove the Undead who never go away, courtesy of the electorate. And he is the one most likely to have an impact on things like cave access in the future. Lots of stuff going on in the background.
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/gove-unveils-new-covenants-to-protect-nature
ZombieCake
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What about Chris Grayling? A stalwart that has been absolutely consistent in everything he touches
I've a fleet of fast jests that can fly vaccines etc. wherever you need them. Just completely short of the actual jets, pilots, fuel, hangars, and infrastructure. That'll surely elevate to the top of the contract handing out list!
pwhole
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Gove is truly evil. He's worse than Johnson even, as at least Johnson can't help but slip into honestly occasionally, bless him, though he tries so hard to be consistently evil. I think part of the problem here is that you've got politicians who used to be journalists, employing journalists who would quite like to be politicians - and then trying to output their jointly-crafted guff via other journalists - some of whom (thank god) definitely don't want to be politicians. But many of them do too. So you end up with this viper's nest of whispers and back-stabbing instead of coherent policy and confident, upstanding people that you'd actually like to identify with. And journalists (or perhaps, more importantly their employers) then end up with far more political power than they should have (like Murdoch). I feel so superior to Boris Johnson that I cannot accept him as my leader, it's as simple as that. And the rest of the cabinet are also just so...lame. And then they're either affable and lame, or evil and lame. The world is far too complex and fast-moving now for these dorks to be in charge, but the system is too corrupted to adequately replace them. It's a bit like I, Claudius, with gilets and bad suits instead of togas.
There are many parables produced throughout history, mostly of them warning against unpleasant human failings, and usually offering useful solutions to avoid folks making the same mistake twice. The Boy Who Cried Wolf possibly being the pinnacle, and totally applicable most days to most topics. Very few people seem to have learned from it. The Emperor's New Clothes is essentially being re-run in Downing Street and the White House right now, and even with millions of smart young people pointing out that he is actually naked, nothing seems to be resolved. Possibly as too many people would quite like to be the courtiers, and so are not listening to the smart people. Also Br'er Rabbit and the Tar Baby, which never fails to resonate:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tar-Baby
I'll get me coat
There are many parables produced throughout history, mostly of them warning against unpleasant human failings, and usually offering useful solutions to avoid folks making the same mistake twice. The Boy Who Cried Wolf possibly being the pinnacle, and totally applicable most days to most topics. Very few people seem to have learned from it. The Emperor's New Clothes is essentially being re-run in Downing Street and the White House right now, and even with millions of smart young people pointing out that he is actually naked, nothing seems to be resolved. Possibly as too many people would quite like to be the courtiers, and so are not listening to the smart people. Also Br'er Rabbit and the Tar Baby, which never fails to resonate:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tar-Baby
I'll get me coat
RobinGriffiths
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I notice that our part-time prime minister and full-time clown is self-isolating again.