Peak District Rigging Guide. CCPC

[wellyjen]

Clatterway Levels is now in the rigging guide, following an enquiry by Tim Dobson. After asking around the club, I was told that it was originally planned to go in during the early years of the century when the guide was started. At the time there was a shortage of simpler SRT trips with topos available. For some reason it never happened, so thanks Tim for the prod  ! The current edition is now 13.1.

Currently, there are two stainless steel thru-bolts on the first pitch, however to ensure you are not rigging off one anchor, you'll need to use a dodgy looking home made rusty angle iron hanger. For the second pitch/handline/climb, the main drop is off a nice thread belay, but to rig an approach traverse you'd need to use two rusty angle iron hangers. These need small maillons, as most krabs won't fit through the holes.

Jen

 

[tdobson]

Thanks for sorting this Jen! 

 

[Alex]

Nice, an online guide would be very handy. Saves scanning the old one in. May I suggest (I have not looked) but an optional donation button should be on there so people can chuck you guys a few quid for all the hard work?

 

[wellyjen]

We are ahead of you! There is a button to donate to DCRO, rather than CCPC on the guide web page. https://www.ccpc.org.uk/rigging.htnl.
Jen

 

[andys]

All good stuff - but the "3D Models" from the registry either don't work any more or I'm doing something wrong?

 

[wellyjen]

We are ahead of you! There is a button to donate to DCRO, rather than CCPC on the guide web page. https://www.ccpc.org.uk/rigging.htnl.
Jen

Fumble fingers. The link should be https://www.ccpc.org.uk/rigging.html.

 

[wellyjen]

All good stuff - but the "3D Models" from the registry either don't work any more or I'm doing something wrong?

For me the Bradwell and the Stoney model viewers on the DCA Peak Survex Project page are working, but the Castleton and the overall Peak ones are not. Downloading the data and trying to open it with Aven gives a "Bad 3d image file" error, so it looks like these files on the DCA site are corrupt. DCA maintain these, not CCPC, so nothing we can do, other than let them know there is a problem, which I've just done!
Jen

 

[Scud]

All good stuff - but the "3D Models" from the registry either don't work any more or I'm doing something wrong?

For me the Bradwell and the Stoney model viewers on the DCA Peak Survex Project page are working, but the Castleton and the overall Peak ones are not. Downloading the data and trying to open it with Aven gives a "Bad 3d image file" error, so it looks like these files on the DCA site are corrupt. DCA maintain these, not CCPC, so nothing we can do, other than let them know there is a problem, which I've just done!
Jen

I?ve let the DCA Webmaster know and he will take a look.

 

[pwhole]

This is fixed now

 

[andys]

This is fixed now

Still not working for me I'm afraid. For reference, here's (one of) the URL I was trying:

https://peakdistrictcaving.info/CaveView/?file=Castleton_Master_NoSurface.3d&prefix=castleton_master_nosurface.giants_oxlow_maskhill_system

 

[pwhole]

It's working OK for me.

 

[wellyjen]

Still not working for me I'm afraid. For reference, here's (one of) the URL I was trying:

https://peakdistrictcaving.info/CaveView/?file=Castleton_Master_NoSurface.3d&prefix=castleton_master_nosurface.giants_oxlow_maskhill_system

Try emptying your browser cache. It may be still using the previously downloaded dodgy version of the data.

 

[andys]

Still not working for me I'm afraid. For reference, here's (one of) the URL I was trying:

https://peakdistrictcaving.info/CaveView/?file=Castleton_Master_NoSurface.3d&prefix=castleton_master_nosurface.giants_oxlow_maskhill_system

Try emptying your browser cache. It may be still using the previously downloaded dodgy version of the data.

Spot on - problem solved - and many thanks!

 

[wellyjen]

Added a topo for The Dungeon in Bagshawe Cavern. Other pitches in Bagshawe will follow at some point, but this is the most often descended. The DCA access links for some of the caves were broken, so the links on the site and the QR codes on the topos have been corrected. All caves now use peakdistrictcaving.info links, rather than a mix of these and DCA Cave Registry links. Since many topos have new QR codes, the opportunity has been taken to renumber the pages to take account of the two new topos since the last renumbering. The Level 7 / Hope Shaft topo is now called Middleton Dale Mine - Level 7 / Hope Shaft to match the naming in CotPD. Various other minor corrections. A printed guide will need printing again to bring it up to date. The latest version is now 13.2.

 

[tdobson]

Added a topo for The Dungeon in Bagshawe Cavern. Other pitches in Bagshawe will follow at some point, but this is the most often descended.

Absolutely love that you've added this. I'm often helping newbies rig, and this is a favourite of mine. This will help. Thank you.

 

[wellyjen]

The Youds' Level / Day Shaft topo has had the name changed to the more historically accurate Deep Shaft. It drops in to Ringing Rake Sough, the original name for Youds. See this thread for the details. https://ukcaving.com/board/index.php?topic=27801.msg341267;topicseen#new. This will help keep the rigging guide consistent with the DCA on-line information. If/when Gentlewoman's Shaft is reopened and access renegotiated, this can be added to the topo.
The new revision is 13.3.

Confused?
Jen

 

[wellyjen]

Some caving by push bike in the sunshine to check rigging and rope lengths so we can replace a couple of written descriptions with proper topos. Minimal kit, a 30m rope, SRT kit, helmet/lights and a boiler suit meant I could actually cycle up the hills! Braved the hurtling lorries  on the A623 through Stoney Middleton Dale without getting squished to sketch Lay-By Pot mined shaft, Eayam Dale Shaft and Flower Pot. These have resulted in new topos for Lay-by Pot and Carlswark Cavern. The recommended rope length for Eyam Dale Shaft has increased to allow a back up to a tree. As this shaft is used a lot by relative novices, it seemed a good idea. You can use a shorter rope if you miss this out. The new Rigging Guide revision is 13.4.
Jen.

 

[pwhole]

Nice one Jen, thanks for doing that and well done for doing Stoney Dale on a bike!  :bow:

 

[tdobson]

The recommended rope length for Eyam Dale Shaft has increased to allow a back up to a tree. As this shaft is used a lot by relative novices, it seemed a good idea

I actually have a personal story of a mini epic / unexpected changeover for someone who wasn't expecting one from this problem, in this cave. I blamed myself (accurate!) but updating the rope length is be great. Thanks!

 

[wellyjen]

The recommended rope length for Eyam Dale Shaft has increased to allow a back up to a tree. As this shaft is used a lot by relative novices, it seemed a good idea

I actually have a personal story of a mini epic / unexpected changeover for someone who wasn't expecting one from this problem, in this cave. I blamed myself (accurate!) but updating the rope length is be great. Thanks!

Yes, the old description mentioned backing up to a tree, then gave a rope length that would only work if you didn't!