Repeat burglaries in rural areas

[ditzy 24//7]

but who is going to want to live in a hut without electricity when you could just live in a cave ...
maybe someone could make the lace look like its being lived in even if its not.
thell be less likely to thief that way

 

[cap n chris]

Ray Mears might have a stab at living there but I doubt many others could.

 

[Christian_Chourot]

I know of one remote accommodation site (remaining anonymous for obvious reasons) that have plans to install mains electricity at great expense because amongst other reasons they feel its the only way to take necessary security measures. All previous measures such as steel shutters and smashproof windows not being considered sufficient in this day and age. In the case of your site it's probably a case of raise the money to do this yourselves or lose the kit.

Have you considered a stake out? It worked wonders some years ago when cavers' stuff was being pinched regularly in Wales. Repeated incidents might just be one or two people causing a disproportionate amount of chaos.

Any idea how much it'll cost?

 

[Peter Burgess]

I know of one remote accommodation site (remaining anonymous for obvious reasons) that have plans to install mains electricity at great expense because amongst other reasons they feel its the only way to take necessary security measures. All previous measures such as steel shutters and smashproof windows not being considered sufficient in this day and age. In the case of your site it's probably a case of raise the money to do this yourselves or lose the kit.

Have you considered a stake out? It worked wonders some years ago when cavers' stuff was being pinched regularly in Wales. Repeated incidents might just be one or two people causing a disproportionate amount of chaos.

Any idea how much it'll cost?

Something like ?100,000 I think? But that includes a lot of other improvements as well, and every site will be different depending on how easy it is to get the power from the nearest distribution point. You would need to ask the transmission company for a quote I suppose.

 

[Hughie]

I know of one remote accommodation site (remaining anonymous for obvious reasons) that have plans to install mains electricity at great expense because amongst other reasons they feel its the only way to take necessary security measures. All previous measures such as steel shutters and smashproof windows not being considered sufficient in this day and age. In the case of your site it's probably a case of raise the money to do this yourselves or lose the kit.

Have you considered a stake out? It worked wonders some years ago when cavers' stuff was being pinched regularly in Wales. Repeated incidents might just be one or two people causing a disproportionate amount of chaos.

Never really rated electronic alarm systems - they seem to go off so often nobody really takes a lot of notice of them.

Taking the UBSS hut as an example, I would consider a bird scaring gas gun

http://www.molevalleyfarmers.com/pd4_VERMIN_BIRD-SCARE_25320_BIRD-SCARER-SCATTERBIRD-MARK-3.htm

Presuming the hut has gas, and there must surely be enough electronics boffins within the club to adapt and develop an initiation/firing/override system, this would be a cheap alternative. They're fearsome things, especially to the unaware and unknowing. It would also have the advantage of raising awareness amongst the local residents that something was going on.

 

[ian.p]

Let someone live there permanently

i will
no seriosly i could do with some cheap/free acomodation for the next few months dont mind not having mains or hot water. if you need somone to live there full time for a bit id be delighted to.

 

[Christian_Chourot]

The water is rainwater, not piped let alone hot!

Such luxuries, eh?

 

[paul]

The water is rainwater, not piped let alone hot!

Such luxuries, eh?

Aye - but I bet the Council Tax is cheap....

 

[graham]

The water is rainwater, not piped let alone hot!

Such luxuries, eh?

Aye - but I bet the Council Tax is cheap....

Only 'cos of the Statutory Relief. Trust me, I know.

 

[VivB]

When it happened to us, we borrowed a dog (collie/allsorts) after the first burglery (as well as getting quite distressed, mending security lights, taking to sleeping with a length of iron pipe under the bed).  Lucky for us we did: a week later the feckers came back to our lock-up to try taking the rest of the kit, that they hadn't been able to carry the first time.  The dog was well aware of our heightened state of alert, as we sent it out several times a night to 'see whassup, girl!'.  It was most gratifying to hear the dog go off like a a furball explosion, and exclaimations of surprise from the bad men.  They didn't come back.


I believe the culprits moved, because after a spate of similar events in the village, all went quiet.  It's goodd to be reminded that people nick things, tho.  Maybe I shouldn't leave my car keys in the ignition overnight...

 

[bubba]

They will come back again and again - scaring them with noises might work once, but not repeatedly. You have to make it not worth their hassle to steal.

I would do something like pour a concrete base and lock the generator down with a thick metal bar or inside a metal cage. The bar/cage needs to be secured using tamper-proof bolts and a proper high security padlock.

They will still be able to steal it but will probably move on to an easier target if it's going to take them hours to get it.

 

[graham]

The simple answer is that we have not and will not replace an in-situ generator. This is a bloody nuisance, but there is no option that cannot be smashed apart.

I agree that noise etc will not work in such a rural context, it will merely annoy, leading to more damage in retaliation.

 

[Elaine]

Me again with another suggestion. I can see your hopes rising already!!

How about making the run up to where the generator is stored very unfriendly for carrying a generator away from. Just very rocky and uneven will do. Spikey and pointy would be even better.

 

[Hughie]

I would do something like pour a concrete base and lock the generator down with a thick metal bar or inside a metal cage. The bar/cage needs to be secured using tamper-proof bolts and a proper high security padlock.

You'd think that would be an effective deterrent, but it isn't and never will be.
Once the scumbags know an "essential" bit of kit is there, they'll keep returning to collect the replacement.

Unfortunately, until scrounging and thievery become less attractive than working, coupled with an effective police/judicial/penal system, then Graham is right.

If it's not there, they can't nick it. As is so often the case, the victim suffers.

 

[Christian_Chourot]

I have a cunning plan, halfway through making it at the moment...

 

[cap n chris]

A turnip?

 

[francis]

I think it's real cat, you can still see the little collars hanging....

Francis

 

[graham]

A turnip?

Have you seen Christian's thingy?








Neither have I

 

[francis]

Baldrick in Black Adder says; "I have a cunning plan". Hence the turnip and cat replies.

EDIT:  Baldrick, not Black Adder  :spank:

 

[Christian_Chourot]

Black adder says; "I have a cunning plan". Hence the turnip and cat replies.

You mean Baldrick...