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Re: STOLEN - Bertie Bat
« Reply #50 on: October 17, 2010, 08:29:18 pm »
  Fair Comment Mark.......... He's involved somewhere aling the line.....though as I speculated yesterday,
  "All these denials Chris, yet you seem to be all over this mysery.... could it be that you are sone kind of decoy,,,,Un hareng rouge   ?"

 or Agent Provocoteur ?.

 Either way, this has (is) been very well played......though had the Ransome demands been more reasonable, say a donation to the M.R.O.,,, sorry M.C.R.,, they would have probably been, no doubt met.

 Usually in this sort of thing, a dialogue would have been established by now, and terms, better to both parties would have been worked out...this is more Thatcher/I.R.A. than Hume/Addams right now.
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Re: STOLEN - Bertie Bat
« Reply #51 on: October 18, 2010, 08:37:17 am »
 :bounce: Are we off to bomb Harrods?  :bounce: the would be wholly disproportionate!

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Re: STOLEN - Bertie Bat
« Reply #52 on: October 18, 2010, 12:19:28 pm »
Innocent until proven guilty.  :ang:

But according to the Spanish Inquisition, "suspicion IS proof!"
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Re: STOLEN - Bertie Bat
« Reply #53 on: October 18, 2010, 12:32:36 pm »
 I would, now that Al Feheyed has sold it.. :lol:

 No Bob, the point I was making was that Thatcher refused to even countenance establishing a dialogue with the I.R.A., under any circumstances, and the killing just went on and on.

 Once the old boot was gone,  John Hume and Gerry Addams were able to start talks that eventually led to the Good Friday Agreement, that then ended the troubles.

 As things stand with the Bat, the terms laid down, by the "Kidnappers" are, deliberately un-meetable, therefor, a contact should be made with them ( Via a neutral intertmediary) to establish NEW terms that would be beneficial to both parties , say some form of funding arrangement/donation for the MCR.

 NOTE: this is speculation, I don't speak for the whole club, I'm merely putting forward alternative options.
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Re: STOLEN - Bertie Bat
« Reply #54 on: October 18, 2010, 12:55:40 pm »
if Bertie ever gets back, will he be suffering from Stockholm Syndrome?
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Re: STOLEN - Bertie Bat
« Reply #55 on: October 18, 2010, 12:58:05 pm »
Slug, the kidnappers have already made contact via a neutral intermediary; they did so via email (anonymously, via a gmail account) and their message and video was posted here as a result. If you wish to deal with them directly (and assuming they don't disagree) I can forward you the email address if you are the BEC's spokesperson dealing with this present situation.

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Re: STOLEN - Bertie Bat
« Reply #56 on: October 18, 2010, 01:03:57 pm »
 Doubtful...

 A B.E.C. Member WAS kidnapped, for real, back in the 80's, by Philipino Guerillas, but released a few weeks later, unharmed.

 The consensus of opinion within the club was that :
 He'd Eaten all their food,
 Drank all their Beer,
 Smoked all their weed, and
 Shagged all their women,
 and they got fed up with it, so let him go.

 Terrorists can now suffer from Smart's syndrome. :lol:
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Re: STOLEN - Bertie Bat
« Reply #57 on: October 18, 2010, 01:05:06 pm »
Doubtful...

 A B.E.C. Member WAS kidnapped, for real, back in the 80's, by Philipino Guerillas, but released a few weeks later, unharmed.

 The consensus of opinion within the club was that :
 He'd Eaten all their food,
 Drank all their Beer,
 Smoked all their weed, and
 Shagged all their women,
 and they got fed up with it, so let him go.

 Terrorists can now suffer from Smart's syndrome. :lol:

Bet he hadn't shagged all their women. ;)
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Re: STOLEN - Bertie Bat
« Reply #58 on: October 18, 2010, 01:05:34 pm »

 NOTE: this is speculation, I don't speak for the whole club, I'm merely putting forward alternative options.


 I'll put it to the club Chris.
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Re: STOLEN - Bertie Bat
« Reply #59 on: October 18, 2010, 01:29:26 pm »
I’m beginning to think Slug’s a double agent and perhaps he has Bertie stashed away somewhere!
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Re: STOLEN - Bertie Bat
« Reply #60 on: October 18, 2010, 01:33:30 pm »
 No merely trying to get him back in one piece, besides, You were at the same doo that I was when He went......maybe I have a Clone ???
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Re: STOLEN - Bertie Bat
« Reply #61 on: October 18, 2010, 01:48:53 pm »
But surely a man of your knowledge and experience of all things military would give you the advantage and enable you to not only contrive a plan, but complete the mission and return to collect your reward with out anyone even noticing you were missing, perhaps leaving a decoy with a sticker on his head.   :thumbsup:
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Re: STOLEN - Bertie Bat
« Reply #62 on: October 18, 2010, 01:53:08 pm »
 What Jenny, and miss out on all that booze....and the Panto ?? , I maybe that smart, but I'm far too lazy to do it.
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Re: STOLEN - Bertie Bat
« Reply #63 on: October 18, 2010, 01:56:10 pm »
.........or so you lead the BEC to believe  :bow: lol 
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Re: STOLEN - Bertie Bat
« Reply #64 on: October 18, 2010, 07:18:50 pm »
Smart as what ? not as smart as the afore mentioned smart ?

Looking at the Vid the structure behind Bertie looks like a poly tunnel kind of structure, or temporary tent ? it is wafting in the breeze.

and as for having a clone noooooooooooooooooooooooooo one is enough.

This is not your usual kipnap as normally someone would own up.

We assume it is the Wessexs (no denial), could be the other clubs or a disgruntaled splinter group e.g the real wessex (or is that the BEC, always get confused wth caving politics) etc etc.

Think a demand should be sent to prove that he is still in one piece , e,g, photo with a dated newspaper, well thats what they do in the films isn't it.

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Re: STOLEN - Bertie Bat
« Reply #65 on: October 18, 2010, 07:22:47 pm »
J4nny, you may have a point; funny accent, short and, ahem, rotund, owns a van and a distinct love of all things flying, you've just described our very own Slug!! Mr. Gregory please can you account for your whereabouts for the entire night of the dinner.

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Re: STOLEN - Bertie Bat
« Reply #66 on: October 18, 2010, 10:47:59 pm »
i was there too and I dont remember seeing him?
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Re: STOLEN - Bertie Bat
« Reply #67 on: October 18, 2010, 10:50:55 pm »
i was there too and I dont remember seeing him?

I would hope you don't remember very much at all.  :beer2:
Must have been all of those low alcohol white wine spritzers.  :tease:
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Re: STOLEN - Bertie Bat
« Reply #68 on: October 18, 2010, 10:52:13 pm »
The Wessex are blameless  :ang: :blink: - I am sure they would have owned up when I asked them. My wife thinks this is an insult to J-rats memory :bow:. Many of us will recollect Bertie on his Landrover at one of his wakes. So, if you have respect for Jrat return Bertie to his natural home - the Belfry :beer2:.

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Re: STOLEN - Bertie Bat
« Reply #69 on: October 18, 2010, 11:01:03 pm »
I am reasonably sure that the Wessex generally are innocent. There is not even a whisper around the Hut concerning him, just admiration for the ransom video.

Whether a Wessex member or two are involved (on a more freelance basis) remains to be seen but it certainly wasn't a club effort.  :o

My suspicions are of a club further west but I have no real evidence.

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Re: STOLEN - Bertie Bat
« Reply #70 on: October 18, 2010, 11:25:18 pm »
Please may we anticipate at least a  Mendip stylee scale of celebration when the issue (of Berties return) becomes resolved ( if successful, of course, otherwise it would become a glorious wake to celebrate)  For example the Chilean Miners were receiving regular media attention training underground before they re-emerged above ground to cope with the onslaught of the worlds attention and the welcome party> the potential danger are copycat incidents if there are huge payouts/dividends made as agreements.

 Is there owt (sorry anything)   the Northern divisions could to encourage reconciliation?   So that it may result in celebration ( so that we can join in, of course, we up North are worried too). For example, we could consider to honour your Mendip Cavers Fair and sheep racing day,  we will challenge you to bar skittles, and shrove hap'penny and a night time tournament of Quoits at the Hunters. On a stronger level we may consider continuing the  reciprocal rights with the Mendips Cavers,  The currently exchange of  caving knowledge and goods may continue unless the north considered there should be a clampdown. ( this is not a necessarily a statement of threat -  just a healthy open discussion)...

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Re: STOLEN - Bertie Bat
« Reply #71 on: October 19, 2010, 12:22:46 am »
J4nny, you may have a point; funny accent, short and, ahem, rotund, owns a van and a distinct love of all things flying, you've just described our very own Slug!! Mr. Gregory please can you account for your whereabouts for the entire night of the dinner.

1/  I was in the Webbington, getting pissed, along with 200+witnesses, Incl Kangy, Mike Wheadon, Pigwank, Batspiss, Biffo, Stu L, etc... and in the Panto, as a stage hand, which was filmed by at least 1 person. Just because Alex was too blotto to see me doesn't mean I wasn't there. There are plenty of pictures as well.

2/ My van aint big enough to fit the Bat into it, it needs to be transit sized.

3/ The main person pointing the finger at ME, was also there, as a guest from another club.... laying a false trail Jenny ???.

4/ Bob, you weren't at the dinner either, can YOU account for YOUR whereabouts that night ??.
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Re: STOLEN - Bertie Bat
« Reply #72 on: October 19, 2010, 09:55:25 am »
Shite  :o A good point well put. I don't believe I can account for my whereabouts, so it could have been me. :shrug: or maybe I sent in my minions to steal Bertie to forcibly mate with a couple of shaved chimps I located in the SMCC (sheep bothering at the time they were, different story tho').

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Re: STOLEN - Bertie Bat
« Reply #73 on: October 19, 2010, 02:24:33 pm »
The Wessex are blameless  :ang: :blink: - I am sure they would have owned up when I asked them. My wife thinks this is an insult to J-rats memory :bow:. Many of us will recollect Bertie on his Landrover at one of his wakes. So, if you have respect for Jrat return Bertie to his natural home - the Belfry :beer2:.

My wife thinks it's hilarious and is sure that JRat would have really enjoyed it.  A tribute to his memory I say!  Does anyone else have to express the opinion of their wives!!!!!

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Re: STOLEN - Bertie Bat
« Reply #74 on: October 19, 2010, 06:31:46 pm »
We have a sense of humour. I only post for fun!

 

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