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The Great Indoors (HTV Wales Program)
« on: August 13, 2014, 03:31:04 pm »
Does anyone know if this program is available to view/buy anywhere? Web searches turn up nothing.

If you haven't seen it, it was a really good documentary, made in the late 80's, about caving at Llangattock, mainly about the then new discoveries in Daren Cilau. I used to have a copy on VHS, of a recording off the tele!

It featured Bill Gascoine, Martyn Farr, Ann Franklin and John Parker talking about Aggy, Craig A Ffynnon and Daren whilst stood at a bar (in the Drum & Monkey?). Bill was shown placing dye into a stream. There was footage of Clive Gardener in Daren, Martyn and Arthur Millet in the Time Machine, Andy Cave and Angela Garwood (this was before they got married) camping and digging with the Rock Steady Crew.

I'd like to see it again and I'm sure anyone who hasn't seen it, would find it fascinating.

I suppose it's a piece of caving history now!



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Re: The Great Indoors (HTV Wales Program)
« Reply #1 on: August 13, 2014, 05:01:57 pm »
Shouldn't that be The Great Outdoors?

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Re: The Great Indoors (HTV Wales Program)
« Reply #2 on: August 13, 2014, 05:10:29 pm »
Shouldn't that be The Great Outdoors?

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Re: The Great Indoors (HTV Wales Program)
« Reply #3 on: August 13, 2014, 09:19:59 pm »
The Great Indoors. A play on the Great Outdoors as it's about caves!

It really was an excellent program. I'd love to track down a copy.

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Re: The Great Indoors (HTV Wales Program)
« Reply #4 on: August 13, 2014, 09:26:14 pm »
The Great Indoors. A play on the Great Outdoors as it's about caves!

It really was an excellent program. I'd love to track down a copy.

No, sorry, you've lost me there. Caving is open-air recreation, can't be done indoors  ;)

I'll ask if your program is in the MCG library, may take a while to get an answer for you  :thumbsup:

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Re: The Great Indoors (HTV Wales Program)
« Reply #5 on: August 13, 2014, 09:28:45 pm »
The Great Indoors. A play on the Great Outdoors as it's about caves!

It really was an excellent program. I'd love to track down a copy.

Hmm, "indoors", so that can't really be interpreted as "open air recreation",  judgement by media again!! :annoyed:

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Re: The Great Indoors (HTV Wales Program)
« Reply #6 on: August 13, 2014, 09:37:00 pm »
yeah, I'd love to see this too. Never heard of it before...
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Re: The Great Indoors (HTV Wales Program)
« Reply #7 on: August 13, 2014, 09:41:49 pm »
It is Welsh, maybe they do things differently there?-----?
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Re: The Great Indoors (HTV Wales Program)
« Reply #8 on: August 13, 2014, 09:45:07 pm »
Lost in translation ?

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Re: The Great Indoors (HTV Wales Program)
« Reply #9 on: August 13, 2014, 09:46:23 pm »
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Re: The Great Indoors (HTV Wales Program)
« Reply #10 on: August 13, 2014, 10:04:44 pm »
Was thinking of making a CROW reference myself but thought better of it and then I go and miss yours completely Martinr!  :-[

That would be great if you could check in your library for me.  :clap2:
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Re: The Great Indoors (HTV Wales Program)
« Reply #11 on: August 14, 2014, 07:35:12 am »
The name of 'The Great Indoors' was given to this TV programme following a quote made, I think, by Gonzo from Mendip. He was describing the Hard Rock Cafe experience and the explorations being undertaken from that sector of the cave and described as 'We like to think of this all as the Great Indoors'. That's where it comes from. As to having a copy of the prog, can't help you there as the VHS tape is hidden somewhere in the loft. Maybe someone like Clive Gardener or Gonzo can help you?

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Re: The Great Indoors (HTV Wales Program)
« Reply #12 on: August 14, 2014, 12:07:19 pm »
Thanks for that ptpeaty.

I thought it was Andy Cave who said that but then it's been over 20 years since I saw the program!

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Re: The Great Indoors (HTV Wales Program)
« Reply #13 on: August 14, 2014, 05:45:14 pm »
Or you could try Steve Thomas:
http://www.amphonic.com/htdocs/mainpages/comparea/cb/thomassteve.html

& this seems to have a clip from it (full title was - Exploring the Great Indoors - The Darkest Secret 1989):
http://www.itnsource.com/shotlist//ITVProgs/2006/02/03/0841YE018/?s=brecon
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Re: The Great Indoors (HTV Wales Program)
« Reply #14 on: August 14, 2014, 11:29:02 pm »
Thanks for that ptpeaty.

I thought it was Andy Cave who said that but then it's been over 20 years since I saw the program!

Hmmm.....Now you mention it,I think you are right. It was Andy Cave who made the quote. I will have to watch it again sometime as it was a well made film and caught the mood of the Daren explorations in a particularly positive way. Coming up to the 30th anniversary of the first 84 breakthrough in September.

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Re: The Great Indoors (HTV Wales Program)
« Reply #15 on: August 15, 2014, 10:32:55 am »
Cheers mikem!  :thumbsup:

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Re: The Great Indoors (HTV Wales Program)
« Reply #16 on: August 15, 2014, 09:25:50 pm »
You will find it is called 'Exploring the Great Indoors' I use to have a copy of this somewhere.

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Re: The Great Indoors (HTV Wales Program)
« Reply #17 on: May 18, 2016, 03:51:39 pm »
Sid has now added this film to YouTube, and I have started the process of adding it to his filmography on the library:

http://caving-library.org.uk/collections/sid-perou-film-61.php

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Re: The Great Indoors (HTV Wales Program)
« Reply #18 on: May 18, 2016, 09:59:09 pm »
Excellent news.
Just finished watching it. I remember watching it many years ago and enjoying it then, I enjoyed it just as much, maybe more so, now. It's a good historical record and I'm very pleased that it's out in the public domain now.

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Re: The Great Indoors (HTV Wales Program)
« Reply #19 on: May 19, 2016, 12:08:22 pm »
Absolutely brilliant! Great film and a great piece of history now. Features the forum's very own Clive G! And Manrabbit's hand as he likes to remind us!

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Re: The Great Indoors (HTV Wales Program)
« Reply #20 on: May 19, 2016, 08:35:57 pm »
brilliant  :clap2:  hats off to the film crew too  :bow:

And what about those pants  8) (sorry to trivialise it)  ;D

I must say I really do appreciate all that hard work that the diggers did, a very BIG thank you.
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Re: The Great Indoors (HTV Wales Program)
« Reply #21 on: April 12, 2020, 11:14:08 am »
Excellent Film

This was my main inspiration for exploring Daren Cilau and joining CSS

http://stevesharpphotography.co.uk/underground/wales/daren%20cilau.html




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Re: The Great Indoors (HTV Wales Program)
« Reply #22 on: April 12, 2020, 11:16:53 am »
Link doesn't work

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Re: The Great Indoors (HTV Wales Program)
« Reply #23 on: April 13, 2020, 09:13:58 am »
Does now...

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Re: The Great Indoors (HTV Wales Program)
« Reply #24 on: April 14, 2020, 10:43:42 am »
A couple more additions to this film that were also on the DVD

Hard Rock Cafe in the Blue Peter Studio



Daren Cilau - Searching for the Secret River


 

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