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Offline Wayland Smith

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Re: Nellie Kirkhams Field Notes
« Reply #25 on: May 25, 2015, 10:14:39 am »
The BCA host a number of sites on their server at reasonable cost.
It would be appropriate to speak to them about web space for this project rather that hitching it onto a club site.

In the first instance contact "Cooky"
webservices@british-caving.org.uk

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Re: Nellie Kirkhams Field Notes
« Reply #26 on: May 25, 2015, 02:49:55 pm »
The PDMHS site would be ideal

It is already a valuable resource for local mines (I've managed to identify initials down one mine using it) and the addition of these notes can only enhance that.

Thank you to all involved for your efforts.
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Re: Nellie Kirkhams Field Notes
« Reply #27 on: May 25, 2015, 06:38:57 pm »
I agree that the PDMHS site would be ideal place to keep an archive of these field notes.

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Re: Nellie Kirkhams Field Notes
« Reply #28 on: May 25, 2015, 09:06:45 pm »
Given the bulk of the material relates to mining  in the Peak, why would it not be appropriate for it to be hosted on the website of the mining history society Nellie Kirkham joined shortly after its formation in 1959 and remained a member up until her death?
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Re: Nellie Kirkhams Field Notes
« Reply #29 on: May 25, 2015, 10:39:12 pm »
Nowhere near done yet but:
Shaw Engine   8.2
Copper   8.3
Eyam   8.7
Provincial Words   8.12
Bee Keeping   8.16
Bees   8.21
Manifold Quarries, Ecton   8.27
Calver Sough   8.30
Millersdale Bee Bole cut out of limestone crag   8.31
Christopher Fullwood   8.50
Carlswalk   8.57
Watergrove mine, Bamford/bamforth hole, Oakenedge   8.60
Hucklow Edge Great Rake   8.61
Moorwood Sough   8.65
36 Smiling Fanny   8.68
Forest of High Peak   8.76
Ebbing and Flowing Well, Tideswell   8.79
Shaft? In Haddon Hall?   8.80
Hazelbadge Cave, grren dale, near tideswell   8.81
Giants hole Area   8.86
Moss Rake   8.87
Pic Tor End Mine   8.89
Maiden Rake Soughs, Near Little Hucklow   8.91
Winding up a copper by Pretending to be a corpse in a coffin   8.92
Secret Passage from Wheeton Hall to Tideswell Church   8.93
Watergrove Sough   8.97
Silence mine   8.98
Oakenedge Sough, Eyam Dale   8.99
Mines of Eyam   8.103
Slaters Mine   8.105
Silence Mine   8.106
Red Water   8.118
Hucklow Edge Vein Mines   8.121
Black Hole Mine   8.124
Ladywash Mine   8.127
Broadlow Area   8.128
Moorwood sough tail   8.133
Little Pasture- Old Pasture   8.135
Moorwood   8.136
Slaters Engine   8.138
Upper Odin   8.140
Slaters Engine, Bradshaw Lane, Foolow   8.141
Black Hole   8.143
Slaters Sough   8.146
Waterfall Swallet   8.148
Stoney Middleton   8.150
Hole With Potential Somewhere near Eyam   8.152
Waterfall Hole, Eyam and Alan Ashwell   8.158
Veins Near Waterfall Swallet, Eyam- Crosslow Rake Vein, Black Hole Vein   
Cressbrook Dale, Peter's Dale, Great Dale   8.163
Hay Dale, Re Boundary of Ashford   8.165
Wardlow   8.166
Wardlow Sough and Seedlow Rake   8.172
Arbor Seates Mine   8.173
Sough Vein (wardlow) and Seedlow Vein   8.177
Baked Clay Bed- "Volcanic Mud"   8.179
Maley Sough (Mawrey)   8.180
Crimbo Rake, Wham Sough, Hardshead Sough   8.183
Family Tree of John Wolstenholme?   8.184
Wham Sough and HandyHead Sough   8.185
Maurey Sough   8.186
Chelmorton Thorn   8.188
Illy Willy Water   8.189
Plan of Maury Mine, Taddington Liberty   8.190
Rantor Engine Shaft, Rantor Mine   8.191
Maurey Mine   8.192
Godfrey Hole, near Wirksworth   8.193
Greenwood Map, Priestcliff   8.198

Again it's in excel form here so i'll share once complete.


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Re: Nellie Kirkhams Field Notes
« Reply #31 on: May 26, 2015, 02:14:01 pm »
Box 5 has some good stuff on Hazard & Hollandtwine (HollowTwine?) including a map marking Hollandtwine on page 100. Plus a poignant moment - the passing of Eli Simpson (Cymmie/Simmie(sic)) in 1962.
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Re: Nellie Kirkhams Field Notes
« Reply #32 on: May 26, 2015, 08:25:42 pm »
Great stuff Mark. I now have one pdf spanning 1946 to 1954.

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Re: Nellie Kirkhams Field Notes
« Reply #33 on: May 26, 2015, 08:58:25 pm »
I've started with Box 7 and i'm slightly wishing I hadn't!

There's a lot of Weighty legal Stuff Regarding the Bagshaw Estate and also lots of information about the documents that sheffield library hold, Presumably as notes towards the law suit. so not much actual detail, although it could be in there somewhere!

7.66 onwards is a lovely document :)

Not quite sure i'm doing it justice, so once i've done the excel sheet it might well need some adjustment.

Black Engine, Hucklow Edge Vein   7.3
Mock Mine, High Rake   7.7
Hucklow Edge   7.8
High Rake Mine   7.13
Index of Items at Sheffield Library in 1963   7.24
Plan of Township of Calver   7.27
List of Photocopies from Bagshawe collection, sheffield   7.28
Mandale mine   7.55
Victory Level   7.60
Nether Hubberdale Pipe, Taddington   7.66
Hubba Dale, Wham and Wheat Sough, Liberty of Taddington and Flagg   7.76
Whale Sough   7.80
Auton Cross Sough   7.80
Stoke Sough and Ladywash Mine   7.80
Auton Croft   7.81
Brightside   7.82
Cromford Sough   7.83
Stoke sough, Ladywash Works and North Vein   7.85
Cheese Left at bus stop with dog, shop owner asked if she could put the cheese and dog onto the bus   7.87
Archives of the Bagshaw Family of the Oakes in Norton, in sheffield central library   7.88
Wormhill Estate   7.95
Derbyshire Turnpike Roads   7.97
Craven Estates (west Riding)   7.98
Grassington Leadmines   7.99
Misc Printed Maps   7.100
Key to Exploration Map, Ladywash, Shaw Engine, Stoke Sough Old Engine, Stoke Sough New Engine   7.103
Gould Rake   7.105
Ribor Mine   7.106
Internal Shaft in Glebe Mine   7.106
Eyam Craunch   7.108
Black Engine Mound, Middleton Engine   7.110
*Collection of Books in Jim Riewerts Possession: the W.A. Kirkby Collection   7.111
Sheffield Central Library   7.118
Stoke Sough and Moorwood Engine   7.121
High Rake Mine   7.125
Hassop Sough   7.127
Letter from Sheffield Library- regarding some Record numbers   7.134
Bagshaw v Spencer (1731)   7.136
Chancery Proceedings 1714-58   7.144
Bagshaw & spencer lead mines   7.145
Bagshaw law suits- loose your wits over them   7.147
Bagshaw Chancery Proceedings   7.149
Tideslow Rake   7.154
Tideswell Rake   7.155
Survey of Black Engine mine, Middleton Engine, top Twelve meers and Old Twelve meers mine   7.162
Grindlow Liberty Diagram   7.171

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Re: Nellie Kirkhams Field Notes
« Reply #34 on: May 26, 2015, 09:20:17 pm »
Great work Alastair. And if in doubt, include any info you can, especially when there's gold in there like this!

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Cheese Left at bus stop with dog, shop owner asked if she could put the cheese and dog onto the bus   7.87
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The end is where we start....

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Re: Nellie Kirkhams Field Notes
« Reply #35 on: May 26, 2015, 09:29:03 pm »
I'm working on box 9 and will hopefully post contents list tomorrow. I'll have to have a look at box 7, sounds like 7.66 may be a copy of the Dawson plan of Whale Sough.
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Re: Nellie Kirkhams Field Notes
« Reply #37 on: May 27, 2015, 07:40:41 am »
A couple of plans to think about

Hurdlow Steel Pipe

https://www.dropbox.com/s/jqrlqm6h8bzqmh9/Hurdlo.pdf?dl=0

Hurdlow Steel Pipe 2

https://www.dropbox.com/s/0poh8h0j1dccn44/Hurdlo_2.pdf?dl=0

Longcliff Mine

https://www.dropbox.com/s/taqaiux1upcpdor/Longcliff.pdf?dl=0

Longcliff Mine 2

https://www.dropbox.com/s/asc2y5cqrs8131f/longcliff2.pdf?dl=0

Plans seem to be mostly Ecton Mines

Will post more when time allows


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Re: Nellie Kirkhams Field Notes
« Reply #38 on: May 27, 2015, 01:24:42 pm »
This is absolutely brilliant stuff!  Many thanks to all those involved in making sure this material is not lost and is accessible to cavers in the future.

Once everything is organised and a permanent host site found (I agree that PDMHS sounds a good one to go for) I would like to include reference to this as part of the British Caving Library [BCL] website links.  I am tentatively looking to set up a "database" of caving/mining archives:  i.e. a list of existing archives and where they may be found, on-line or not.  There are stacks of archives held by libraries, museums, caving clubs, etc. and it would be good to have, hosted on BCL's website, a complete list of what these archives are and where cavers can access them.  It's in the blue-sky planning stage at present and I'm aiming to put it to the BCL Steering Group at our next meeting so any comments would be welcome - PM me please.

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Re: Nellie Kirkhams Field Notes
« Reply #39 on: May 27, 2015, 04:40:18 pm »

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Re: Nellie Kirkhams Field Notes
« Reply #40 on: May 27, 2015, 06:02:28 pm »
^thanks go to AR for number 9.

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Re: Nellie Kirkhams Field Notes
« Reply #41 on: May 27, 2015, 08:06:16 pm »
The Roman numerals, as I understand it, relate to groupings of the old Ordnance survey maps - these groupings are of 16 maps for 25" and probably 4 for 6", group IX covers part of Chapel, Peak Forest, and Castleton. I'll have to have a proper look when  get chance, also do a screengrab of the index map.
There is a list of Derbyshire 6" sheets with the Roman numeral references at http://maps.nls.uk/os/6inch-england-and-wales/derbyshire.html They are hyperlinked to the online maps but it looks like the links are "down" (weekend maintenance?)

Within the 6" sheet the 25" sheets are numbered as:


Here is the index sheet for the 25" Derbyshire maps
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Re: Nellie Kirkhams Field Notes
« Reply #43 on: May 29, 2015, 08:46:09 am »
Cheers Mark, Sterling Job


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Re: Nellie Kirkhams Field Notes
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Re: Nellie Kirkhams Field Notes
« Reply #46 on: June 01, 2015, 10:38:42 am »
This is fantastic material - many thanks Mark for posting! :)
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Re: Nellie Kirkhams Field Notes
« Reply #47 on: June 01, 2015, 04:59:33 pm »
Index Box 7

https://www.dropbox.com/s/d36j032rhts6gjj/7-%20Box%20Index.xlsx?dl=0

Thanks again Alastair

Nice to have the index in spreadsheet format. Any chance of getting the others the same.
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Re: Nellie Kirkhams Field Notes
« Reply #48 on: June 01, 2015, 08:18:01 pm »
Nice to have the index in spreadsheet format. Any chance of getting the others the same.

Box 9 Index (xlsx)

https://www.dropbox.com/s/p5njl2ysfk8ppwx/Box%209%20index.xlsx?dl=0

Box 8 Index (xlsx)

https://www.dropbox.com/s/3il78lgxr57daid/8-%20Box%20Index-2.xlsx?dl=0

There you go Dave


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Re: Nellie Kirkhams Field Notes
« Reply #49 on: June 01, 2015, 08:33:55 pm »

Nice to have the index in spreadsheet format. Any chance of getting the others the same.

We could do with more volunteers to create the indexes, I'm going to do some more when I get chance but work's a bit busy right now. The more people do one, the quicker it'll get done!
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