Whereabouts are these? Is it the pitch where you duck down under the wall to your left when facing the 10m drop into lower Trident?
It's dismal to read a caving equivalent of an episode of Grumpy Old Men/Women: how does this anti accessibility mindset square against the BCA Vision for increasing/improving the rapid cliff-edge demographic of the nation's caving? If making things less dangerous and more do-able for a modern generation who are physically less awesome than pioneers who routinely took calculated risks (nowadays highly inadvisable for anyone with a family) is going to elicit a knee-jerk reaction and a call to arms to purge caves of long overdue and needful fixed aids then perhaps BCA, and caving generally, deserves to die on its arse due to a lack of uptake from people who don't fancy exposing themselves to a real likelihood of life-changing injuries.
The pitch in question does not need via ferrata-style style fixed aids.
if the staples were really the only practical way for them to get up
The BCA is not there to provide you with an ever increasing range of caves that you can pitch to your customers.
Quote from: BradW on February 11, 2019, 09:53:32 amif the staples were really the only practical way for them to get upAs opposed to rigging a ladder and/or a rope?
If you're not happy with my initial assumption that most people want the "minimum acceptable level of safety" then consider installing strip lighting, hand rails, and picnic benches in all caves in the UK. What would be the objection to those things that would make the trip safer and accessible for all levels of ability?
I doubt you could fit a picnic bench into Strans gill, it would rather get in the way
Meanwhile, what if a rung did break while someone was using it? What would be the liability issues[...]
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