Poll

Which way do you intend to vote in the upcoming general election?

Conservative
16 (14.3%)
Labour
54 (48.2%)
Liberal Democrat
18 (16.1%)
Scottish National Party
0 (0%)
Plaid Cymru
2 (1.8%)
Green Party
11 (9.8%)
Brexit Party
3 (2.7%)
An Independent
1 (0.9%)
Other
7 (6.3%)

Total Members Voted: 112

Voting closed: December 05, 2019, 09:07:44 am

Author Topic: Are UKCaving cavers representative of the population politically?  (Read 2333 times)

Offline nearlywhite

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Just wanted to start a fight... I jest, actually I was just wondering if cavers (that go on UKC) were representative of the population at large after hearing two people assert that cavers are naturally conservative AND naturally left wing.

I think my own bubble is two pamphlets away from singing the red flag but it's nice to check.

Offline mikem

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Re: Are UKCaving cavers representative of the population politically?
« Reply #1 on: November 28, 2019, 10:23:55 am »
Monster Raving Loony?

Offline Pegasus

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Re: Are UKCaving cavers representative of the population politically?
« Reply #2 on: November 28, 2019, 10:59:50 am »
Brave of you posting the poll :) though I was wondering the same myself.

Please folks, by all means vote on the poll, however could we avoid rants about national politics. We've been wonderfully free of it on here, let's keep it that way - posting (politely about caving politics is of course fine :)  )

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Re: Are UKCaving cavers representative of the population politically?
« Reply #3 on: November 28, 2019, 11:03:12 am »
Interesting - there may be a few folk that would be following their natural party inclinations but voting tactically 

---- for what the they view as "the greater good"
 

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Re: Are UKCaving cavers representative of the population politically?
« Reply #4 on: November 28, 2019, 11:12:07 am »
Mine was indeed indicative of a tactical vote. Perhaps that's another pole then, how many cavers will tactically vote?

It is interesting to see if cavers are more left or right or just more tactical. I suspect if you take into account location, age group etc I wonder if it would tally with national polls.
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Re: Are UKCaving cavers representative of the population politically?
« Reply #5 on: November 28, 2019, 11:13:36 am »
I don't like it, it does not belong on here and am boycotting it.

Sorry, but too many people around trying to shove their porridge down the throats of others, be it politics or other matters. When they do it in conversation i usually comment about weather or gardening. Its called "stonewalling" and they soon get the message. One could be more blatant and say "Sorry but I don't want to know"
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Re: Are UKCaving cavers representative of the population politically?
« Reply #6 on: November 28, 2019, 11:27:03 am »
There's a website that shows you who to vote for tactically in your area, so I'm voting tactically.
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Re: Are UKCaving cavers representative of the population politically?
« Reply #7 on: November 28, 2019, 11:27:30 am »
Quote
comment about weather or gardening
My back garden is a right mess, however the pots of thyme, rosemary, and wild strawberries I planted out earlier in the year are still alive despite all the rain.  Which is nice.

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Re: Are UKCaving cavers representative of the population politically?
« Reply #8 on: November 28, 2019, 11:45:28 am »
I have been busy relaying paving slabs. Its a start, I know what you mean by "mess". Its spending all my time working in the mines.
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Re: Are UKCaving cavers representative of the population politically?
« Reply #9 on: November 28, 2019, 12:45:40 pm »
How I wish I had a garden...but I live in a flat. But my "mother in law" has a beautiful garden which I get paid to tend to from time to time :)

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Re: Are UKCaving cavers representative of the population politically?
« Reply #10 on: November 28, 2019, 03:00:56 pm »
I have been busy relaying paving slabs. Its a start, I know what you mean by "mess". Its spending all my time working in the mines.
Washing all the heavy metals off your suit probably isn't helping...

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Re: Are UKCaving cavers representative of the population politically?
« Reply #11 on: November 28, 2019, 03:06:31 pm »
It doesn't seem to stop gorse and brambles though. The historic sites that this stuff takes over!
I have some at Cwmystwyth and worry about it spreading.

It has 'done' a lot of sites in Cornwall.
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Re: Are UKCaving cavers representative of the population politically?
« Reply #12 on: November 28, 2019, 03:11:39 pm »
Glyphosate is your friend, Roy.
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Re: Are UKCaving cavers representative of the population politically?
« Reply #13 on: November 28, 2019, 03:12:00 pm »
political rant that pretends not to be a political rant

You're not stonewalling here, you've done the equivalent of walking up to some other people talking about it and interrupting them. You are of course free to toddle on past posts like this without injecting yourself into them! Youth of today eh, no manners.

On a thread-related note, I'm not *that* surprised that a poll of cavers would be majority left-leaning (looking like labour/greens). I suspect the sort of people to get their rocks off pushing themselves down stupid holes for no reason or to wear nipple tassels at a national caving event probably intersects with the sort of people who would vote for the green party

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Re: Are UKCaving cavers representative of the population politically?
« Reply #14 on: November 28, 2019, 04:02:09 pm »
political rant that pretends not to be a political rant

You're not stonewalling here, you've done the equivalent of walking up to some other people talking about it and interrupting them. You are of course free to toddle on past posts like this without injecting yourself into them! Youth of today eh, no manners.

On a thread-related note, I'm not *that* surprised that a poll of cavers would be majority left-leaning (looking like labour/greens). I suspect the sort of people to get their rocks off pushing themselves down stupid holes for no reason or to wear nipple tassels at a national caving event probably intersects with the sort of people who would vote for the green party

Are you referring to Roy as 'the youth of today'  :lol: :unsure: :coffee:

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Re: Are UKCaving cavers representative of the population politically?
« Reply #15 on: November 28, 2019, 04:18:32 pm »
I didn't even see the quote from Roy.....lol
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Re: Are UKCaving cavers representative of the population politically?
« Reply #16 on: November 28, 2019, 04:26:17 pm »
Glyphosate is your friend, Roy.

...or brake fluid - that seems to kill most things.

As for voting, I want "none of the above" on the ballot paper, this time round it feels like every party's talking complete crap and there's no MRL candidate standing locally, I  have the misfortune of living in a safe seat so tactical voting is as effective as spoiling your ballot paper in this constituency :furious:
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Re: Are UKCaving cavers representative of the population politically?
« Reply #17 on: November 28, 2019, 05:13:07 pm »

...or brake fluid - that seems to kill most things.



Certainly kills paintwork  :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: Are UKCaving cavers representative of the population politically?
« Reply #18 on: November 28, 2019, 05:58:05 pm »
misfortune of living in a safe seat so tactical voting is as effective as spoiling your ballot paper in this constituency :furious:

Safe seat, your LUCky!!! Where I have the pleasure of voting has probably been conservative since elections were invented.

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Re: Are UKCaving cavers representative of the population politically?
« Reply #19 on: November 28, 2019, 06:15:52 pm »
...or brake fluid - that seems to kill most things.
Certainly kills paintwork  :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: Are UKCaving cavers representative of the population politically?
« Reply #20 on: November 28, 2019, 07:25:31 pm »
the way this is going it'll probably end up as a caving thread!
 :lol:

EDIT
or a lamp thread
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Re: Are UKCaving cavers representative of the population politically?
« Reply #21 on: November 28, 2019, 07:55:03 pm »
You've already diverted it to a brushwood killing thread Roy  :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: Are UKCaving cavers representative of the population politically?
« Reply #22 on: November 28, 2019, 08:01:28 pm »
Its all my fault. Aren't I a nuisance.
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Re: Are UKCaving cavers representative of the population politically?
« Reply #23 on: November 28, 2019, 08:45:25 pm »
The results are unsurprising to me. I remember the hullabaloo about the Daily Mail and requests to ban people posting links to articles within it!

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Re: Are UKCaving cavers representative of the population politically?
« Reply #24 on: November 28, 2019, 08:52:53 pm »
But the Daily Wail is a crock of sh*t.... :lol: :lol:
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