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Re: What are your views on the CSCC?
« Reply #50 on: July 02, 2020, 07:53:10 am »
Not much caving north of the Tees (plenty of mines)

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Re: What are your views on the CSCC?
« Reply #51 on: July 02, 2020, 08:17:06 am »
It was a little embarrassing that the CNCC, pre-2014, was entrenched in the view that Sheffield wasn't sufficiently northern to become a member club. However, in 2015 we dealt with that crazy situation and enabled any club with an involvement in northern caving to become a member. After all, if people cave regularly up north why shouldn't they have a say in the northern regional council? Not sure how other regional councils work in that respect. Could a northern club join CSCC if they cave regularly down in Mendips?

As for caves north of the Tees, I suspect Blackshiver will be able to add something on that... Fairy Holes... Hudgill Burn... Cutthroat Caverns (not sure if that is technically north of the Tees). It's the place to be for new discovery these days don't you know ;D
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Re: What are your views on the CSCC?
« Reply #52 on: July 02, 2020, 09:29:21 am »
That's one of the reasons they had to change - and they did  :thumbsup:

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Re: What are your views on the CSCC?
« Reply #53 on: July 02, 2020, 09:40:19 am »
It was a little embarrassing that the CNCC, pre-2014, was entrenched in the view that Sheffield wasn't sufficiently northern to become a member club.

We were all set to send Sean Bean up there to sort you out, try telling Ned Stark he's not Northern!

Though based on his track record in films and TV he'd probably have died.
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Re: What are your views on the CSCC?
« Reply #54 on: July 02, 2020, 09:53:31 am »
It was a little embarrassing that the CNCC, pre-2014, was entrenched in the view that Sheffield wasn't sufficiently northern to become a member club.

We were all set to send Sean Bean up there to sort you out, try telling Ned Stark he's not Northern!

Though based on his track record in films and TV he'd probably have died.

Still fuming he didn't play a bigger part in GOT. that one hurt more than most.

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Re: What are your views on the CSCC?
« Reply #55 on: July 02, 2020, 02:04:52 pm »
Not much caving north of the Tees (plenty of mines)
There's also all of Scotland, but still a lot less than there is to the south.

Well, Sheffield is a well known climbing base for the Peak, rather than Yorkshire...

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Re: What are your views on the CSCC?
« Reply #56 on: July 02, 2020, 02:11:30 pm »
Well, Sheffield is a well known climbing base for the Peak, rather than Yorkshire...

As is Manchester.
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Re: What are your views on the CSCC?
« Reply #57 on: July 02, 2020, 02:29:07 pm »
But that's Lancashire, so doesn't count  :tease:

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Re: What are your views on the CSCC?
« Reply #58 on: July 02, 2020, 02:32:33 pm »
But that's Lancashire, so doesn't count  :tease:

This is the most controversial thing you've ever said mods can you ban him

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Re: What are your views on the CSCC?
« Reply #59 on: July 02, 2020, 03:18:05 pm »
But that's Lancashire, so doesn't count  :tease:

Yep. It's Southern and Western - should join CSCC

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Re: What are your views on the CSCC?
« Reply #60 on: July 02, 2020, 03:31:20 pm »
 Based on historical precedent I guess Lancashire would join the Welsh

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Re: What are your views on the CSCC?
« Reply #61 on: July 02, 2020, 03:52:31 pm »
Although the House of Lancaster wasn't very popular there...

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Re: What are your views on the CSCC?
« Reply #62 on: July 02, 2020, 04:11:12 pm »
Although the House of Lancaster wasn't very popular there...

read this as house of lannister.. Determined to turn this into a GOT thread

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Re: What are your views on the CSCC?
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Re: What are your views on the CSCC?
« Reply #64 on: July 02, 2020, 05:22:47 pm »
Quote
Determined to turn this into a GOT thread

Can I vote for that nice lady with the pet dragons as rep for something?

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Re: What are your views on the CSCC?
« Reply #65 on: July 02, 2020, 05:42:29 pm »
Part of GOT was inspired by the wars of the roses

Mendips are clearly the freys

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Re: What are your views on the CSCC?
« Reply #66 on: July 02, 2020, 06:30:51 pm »
'Never argue with a fool, onlookers may not be able to tell the difference.' — Mark Twain

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Re: What are your views on the CSCC?
« Reply #67 on: July 06, 2020, 10:22:28 am »


These days if you say you're a caver you get arrested and thrown in jail.
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Re: What are your views on the CSCC?
« Reply #68 on: July 06, 2020, 11:39:12 am »
Part of GOT was inspired by the wars of the roses

Mendips are clearly the freys

This would be a great separate thread, abusing each caving region by designating them a house from GOT..

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Re: What are your views on the CSCC?
« Reply #69 on: July 06, 2020, 12:45:16 pm »
That could be construed as racially divisive  :tease:

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Re: What are your views on the CSCC?
« Reply #70 on: July 06, 2020, 01:57:48 pm »
Pretty sure I know what at least one or more of the C's stand for.

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Re: What are your views on the CSCC?
« Reply #71 on: July 08, 2020, 04:18:32 pm »
Pretty sure I know what at least one or more of the C's stand for.
Yeh that could be a fun game... Most amusing alternatives for the acronym CSCC.  ;D  :spank:

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Re: What are your views on the CSCC?
« Reply #72 on: July 08, 2020, 07:12:09 pm »
In case anyone is interested the following was posted on the CSCC mailing list yesterday;

Members of CSCC,
There will be a CSCC Zoom meeting Wednesday 15 July 2020
Link to join zoom meeting will be forwarded nearer the meeting.
Frank Tully
Secretary CSCC

To which was attached the following agenda;

Agenda for the General Meeting
19:00 Wednesday 15 July 2020,
Online Zoom meeting,
Zoom link will be emailed nearer the meeting date.
1 Attendance
2 Apologies for absence
3 Approval minutes,
Minutes of meeting 15 Feb 2020 not available yet.
4 Chairman's report Alan Butcher
5 Secretary's report Frank Tully
6 Conservation & access officer's report Les Williams
6.1 Masbury Swallet Ongoing
6.2 Loxton Cavern Ongoing
6.3 Ubley Warren Ongoing
6.4 Cow hole Ongoing
6.5 Elm Cave Ongoing
6.6 CSCC Locks Ongoing
6.7 Access Database GP to have ability to add caves to database.
DC to write some code to allow GP to add caves.
7 Treasurer's report
8 Training officer's report
9 Equipment officer's report Andrew Atkinson.
10 BCA rep report
Report on Proposals to BCA AGM, BCA AGM – Sunday 11 October 2020 Priddy Village Hall,
Deadline for submissions 23:59 Sat 01 Aug 2020
Next BCA Executive meeting Saturday 18th July 2020
11 Webmasters report David Cooke
12 Regional registry officer’s report Alan Gray
13 Any other Business
14 Forthcoming events
10 - 11 October 2020 BCA AGM & Weekend of caving related events
15 Dates of meetings 2019-2020
 Saturday 14
th September 2019 (GM) 10:30 Hunters
 Saturday 23
th November 2019 (GM) 10:30 Hunters
 Saturday 15
th February 2020 (GM) 10:30 Hunters
 Saturday 18th May 2020 (AGM) 10:30 Hunters

As yet nothing has been said as to whether this General Meeting has any impact on the previously announced rescheduled AGM on 25th July, which unlike the above meeting is shown on the CSCC website (https://cscc.org.uk/wiki/doku.php?id=documents:start)

Note that historically anyone can attend a CSCC meeting, but only nominated representatives of member clubs get a vote.


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Re: What are your views on the CSCC?
« Reply #73 on: July 09, 2020, 08:15:18 am »
Would proposing a vote of no confidence on the grounds of  being unfit for purpose meet with approval from anyone?

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Re: What are your views on the CSCC?
« Reply #74 on: July 09, 2020, 11:35:21 am »
I would be very interested to see how this might play out, though I suspect that the motion would not pass as those who turn up and vote are unlikely to support it.

That said, if it is a Zoom meeting, there may be better attendance   but club reps would need to agree this with their membership ahead of the meeting. Or at least I hope that they would.

If a vote of no confidence was raised without prior notice or discussion at club level,  I would expect reps to either oppose it on the usual grounds of maintenaning the status quo, or otherwise to abstain. Personally, if I were representing any of my clubs without a specific discussion on the subject, I would feel obliged to abstain on something as controversial as this.
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