I can understand people's apathetic views towards voting.
And those who did vote roundly rejected PR...
Quote from: PeteHall on February 09, 2021, 01:54:18 pmAnd those who did vote roundly rejected PR...The 2011 referendum had nothing to do with PR. it was alternative vote vs FPTP
Quote from: JoshW on February 09, 2021, 01:56:24 pmQuote from: PeteHall on February 09, 2021, 01:54:18 pmAnd those who did vote roundly rejected PR...The 2011 referendum had nothing to do with PR. it was alternative vote vs FPTPSorry my mistake, AV, not PR, it was a long time ago and much beer has been consumed since... But either way, the electorate seemed to favour the status quo.
Not wanting to sidetrack this discussion (even more!) but Brexit actually had the highest turnout since the 1992 election - although only slightly above 1997:https://www.statista.com/statistics/1050929/voter-turnout-in-the-uk/
Seems there is a parliamentary paper on that subject:http://researchbriefings.files.parliament.uk/documents/SN07152/SN07152.pdf& https://www.campaignlive.co.uk/article/election-spend-2000-half-1997-contest/50121
The police up here have been driving around and 'sending people away' from sites like Ribblehead, Storrs Common and even Kingsdale if they aren't 'local' (they are using 10 miles as a guideline);
Is the 10 mile guideline an offcial thing?
Question: Is it not the case that in UK law you do not have to talk to a police officer, even if you are being arrested ("..You have a right to remain silent etc...")?If this is the case then the obvious go-to is to not talk and therefore it means you don't need any excuse to be out and about whatsoever, 'cos if you ain't talkin', there's nothing to explain. You do have to stop when ordered to do so by a police officer but after that there's v little they can do. So I believe/understand.
I've not been into a shop since last March, or caving (limiting indoor contacts for health reasons) but the staying local rule is the hardest thing to deal with.
.. some police officers have used the lack of response to imply reasonable grounds to suspect that an offence has been committed under the Covid rules.
I guess the government were hoping that the proles were capable of working out what 'local' meant, and abiding by it, without the need for application of the legal stick.It seems they were wrong.Chris.
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