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« on: August 03, 2004, 01:12:24 pm »
Anyone got any top tips/advice/cool links/ etc.

getting excited  :hyper:

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« Reply #1 on: August 03, 2004, 01:48:18 pm »
Don't leave any rubbish   :(   :(   :(

(See latest BCA bulletin.)

Apart from that - http://users.skynet.be/sky75112/avalonuk/gallery_all/gallery2/gallery2.htm

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« Reply #2 on: August 03, 2004, 02:33:23 pm »
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Don't leave any rubbish   :(   :(   :(


dont worry - I'll be applying my usual rule of trying to bring out more litter than I take in. (I had a welly full of choc wrappers out of the bottom of rowter hole the other day  :angel: )

Cheers for link - I'll be browsing them later.

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« Reply #3 on: August 03, 2004, 05:30:36 pm »
Yer not the only one getting excited about the Berger! I think we've got the permit after you lot?

I reckon I need my head examined given that my last trip to the bottom of the Berger was a bit damp (http://www.cavinguk.co.uk/berger/ian.html), but still I'm looking forward to it.

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Re: Berger
« Reply #4 on: August 04, 2004, 07:47:39 am »
Quote from: "SamT"
Anyone got any top tips/advice/cool links/ etc.

getting excited  :hyper:


Have a look at http://www.caving.tk

During the OCC trip there a couple of years ago we took to leaving some gear in tackle bags at the foot of the surface entrance pitch having walked to the entrance in normal clothes then changing into caving gear at the entrance.

Most were paranoid (me included!) and shoved our bags out of sight in rifts or whatever (after all the cave may be well known but is off the beaten track and an hour or so from the nearest car parking at La Moliere!). One guy left his bag in view and it disappeared with his clothes!

I found the traverse line tied to a tree had been tampered with and some bent tent pegs at the foot of the pitch. Some bastard had fished his bag out using our traverse line with bent tent pegs!  :evil:
... and hadn't even bothered to tie it back properly (the figure of eight knot had been unthreaded and the loop was just shoved back into the hanger - some unobsevant cavers had already descended the pitch before me using the traverse line for safety!  :shock:

We stayed at a Gite on the road up to La Moliere on a bend near the end of the road (Les Feyneys (I think that's how it is spelled?)) - on a previous trip with the WSG in 1990 I camped at La Moliere but that is no longer allowed.
I'm not a complete idiot: some parts are missing!

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« Reply #5 on: August 04, 2004, 08:36:26 am »
cheers paul - good info on that one its been added to the growing pile of info next to my loo.
Im starting to get my head around the place, its as deep as snowdon is high. And you start snowdon from half way up!!!

The guys from CSCA seem to be hyper organised anybody would think it was the military  :lol:

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Re: Berger
« Reply #6 on: August 05, 2004, 10:57:15 am »
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During the OCC trip there a couple of years ago we took to leaving some gear in tackle bags at the foot of the surface entrance pitch having walked to the entrance in normal clothes then changing into caving gear at the entrance.

Most were paranoid (me included!) and shoved our bags out of sight in rifts or whatever (after all the cave may be well known but is off the beaten track and an hour or so from the nearest car parking at La Moliere!). One guy left his bag in view and it disappeared with his clothes!



Most groups have the entrance permanently manned on a rota basis to guard kit and log people in/out etc. I may be wrong, but I thought it was a requirement of access.

CSCC will be doing this (I'm joining the trip for the second week...). SUSS also had a rota sytem when I joined their trip in 1998.

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Re: Berger
« Reply #7 on: August 05, 2004, 11:15:38 am »
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CSCC will be doing this (I'm joining the trip for the second week...).
Rhys


Do you mean the CSCA as in combined services as in that lot from mexico.
or the Mendip mob.

If its the CSCA then I'll see ya there. (If not then good luck)

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Re: Berger
« Reply #8 on: August 05, 2004, 11:22:51 am »
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Do you mean the CSCA as in combined services as in that lot from mexico.
or the Mendip mob.

If its the CSCA then I'll see ya there. (If not then good luck)


I meant CSCA. I noticed my error just after posting! Yes, I'll see you there.

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Re: Berger
« Reply #9 on: August 05, 2004, 12:11:53 pm »
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During the OCC trip there a couple of years ago we took to leaving some gear in tackle bags at the foot of the surface entrance pitch having walked to the entrance in normal clothes then changing into caving gear at the entrance.

Most were paranoid (me included!) and shoved our bags out of sight in rifts or whatever (after all the cave may be well known but is off the beaten track and an hour or so from the nearest car parking at La Moliere!). One guy left his bag in view and it disappeared with his clothes!



Most groups have the entrance permanently manned on a rota basis to guard kit and log people in/out etc. I may be wrong, but I thought it was a requirement of access.

CSCC will be doing this (I'm joining the trip for the second week...). SUSS also had a rota sytem when I joined their trip in 1998.

Rhys


True - we had a single man tent pitched on a very small bit of soft ground amongst the limestone pavement near the entrance (as in 1990 when on a previous trip). We only had one person at a time permanently manning on entrance duty and the nicking must have happened in the night when the person on duty was asleep...
I'm not a complete idiot: some parts are missing!

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« Reply #10 on: August 05, 2004, 12:15:49 pm »
We are going for the second week too, so indeed, I will see you there

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« Reply #11 on: August 13, 2004, 01:13:38 pm »
Have a good one Sam and take care.
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« Reply #12 on: August 13, 2004, 04:03:10 pm »
Cheers dood

see ya when we get back - will try and get some photos

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Me in a big black hole
me in another big black hole

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